well guys your right the instant on switch was on the back as i looked at the back cover and it says quick picture so that will be switched off. all thats left is tv chassis caps and found one 100 ohm resistor bad in the convergence board. the turn table was missing the needle cartridge but i had one to put in. just waiting for the caps and then its a go to the finish and see just how good a picture it produces. and for all you guys that told me my hv probe was lying to me, well i got another now.