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Yes I know - those were the only two DTV boxes I bought. I read everything on those things before I decided on a model. I did not want one with a external power supply I think that's just stupid, but the new mini switching ones ain't bad. And I knew heat is the killer of electronics, so I voted no on any that reviewers said ran hot. And there were a few that has sound problems and other poor reviews on picture quality. The Insignia and Zenith, both made by Insignia seemed best and I did get a few extra, but still I have looked for the manuals but no luck. I'll have to try Sams one day. The only thing about those Insignia's is that red light when its off...... reminds me of the red light on the news camera that is the "live" one.... I've always been slightly bothered by the RED pilot light when its off......