well here is the kicker on this fada saga, it turns out that i was the one that screwed up and put 2 key caps in the wrong place and im not to big to admit it, i messed up. but on the up side i now have 9kv at the crt with the same flyback and i also have 2 spare flybacks for this set i picked up on ebay new in box for 31.00. here i was thinking well i put one cap at a time but thinking back when i was doing this i had people here breaking my concentration by talking to me so i decided to go back and double check and there it was. i had the set running for a few hours setting it up and was done and then the verticle seem to either fold over alittle or it came up from the bottom and came down from the top and had uncontrollable vert roll and befor this happened it had a great picture and sound that seem to be perfectly aligned . so now i have to change the verticle oscillator capacitor and hope thats it since this is the only cap that was not changed. and i would like to thank don lindsly for all the help on this project because without his knowledge helping me i would not have got it going and he has so much knowledge on this old stuff its amazing how i tell him a problem and he has the answer. so if anyone should ask don about a problem and he tells you where to look or what it is, never doubt his word or answer to the problem. so when i get the verticle cap and its stable ill post pictures. and thanks go out to other members that helped me as well with this headache.