Hi, Anthonny. I understand. Actually, a friend of mine did all the biggest complaining, and that's what upset me most. I wasn't angry at you. I'll try the idea you gave soon. Thanks for the tip. You say you're into Heathkits? Would you be interested in vintage HK. Mannuals? I also have some catalogs from late '59, and '60. Would consider selling, or trading..... I also have a tube Heathkit vtvm that hasn't seen life for awhile. I can't use it because meter is too small for me to read. Any interest? It's a 50's vintage, like the one we used at the tv repair shop I worked in in my teenage days.