30" Dumont/Crosley on eBay!!

[Eric H]

A Crosley branded version of the Royal Sovereign (SIC) !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=3638

[Kamakiri]

Damn, and that's driving distance!

If I got it, I'd have to live in the damn thing though. My wife would

Is this really a Royal Sovereign made for Crosley by DuMont, or is it just a Crosley with a 30BP4? It has the vertical slide rule dial, but the knobs are in the wrong place.

The Royal Sovereign did not sell well, not only due to the high price, but because it would not fit through the doors of most homes and had to be lifted in through a window.

The DuMont image below is from Steve McVoy's web site.

[Rob]

Originally posted by Kamakiri
Damn, and that's driving distance!

If I got it, I'd have to live in the damn thing though. My wife would

Tim,

You should buy that and gut it. It is the cheapest way you could put an extension on your house!

Man if I could only drive, and still had something TO drive, I'd be making a deal on that one right now! A 30" set is still on my vintage wish list.

Rob

Too bad RCA didn't make a CTC6, with a 30AXP22!!
The "Royal Sarnoff"?

[Eric H]

Originally posted by wvsaz
Is this really a Royal Sovereign made for Crosley by DuMont, or is it just a Crosley with a 30BP4? Is has the vertical slide rule dial, but the knobs are in the wrong place.

I admit I was in a hurry and guessing when I posted this, but I can't imagine two manufacturers making one this big.

Also I have a Crosley 12" that is pure DuMont inside but with a slightly different tuner dial so I know they made sets for Crosley.

Eric

Interesting! I noticed on the picture of the label that the Crosley version was available in UHF. The Royal Sovereign was manufactured in 1951, before there were UHF tuners, so perhaps DuMont modified it for UHF when they made it for Crosley.


Until now, I had never seen a b&w set other than DuMont with a 30" tube.

[Eric H]

Did you see the tag, that beast draws 460 watts in VHF mode!

[Eric H]

These sets look like they have another 6" of CRT masking, why so much? did they want it to look even bigger??

Originally posted by wvsaz


The DuMont image below is from Steve McVoy's web site.

Originally posted by Eric H
Did you see the tag, that beast draws 460 watts in VHF mode!

Eric,

The DuMont version has 46 tubes, including the 30BP4 & 6 rectifier tubes! There is a separate regulated HV power supply chassis, with its own B+ supply with TWO 5U4's, not to mention a separate B+ supply for the main chassis with TWO ADDITIONAL 5U4's!! The set is truly a beast. The model # is RA-119A and can be found in SAMS #156-5. It must have retailed for thousands even in 1951.

I obtained this rear view image from the seller. The general layout is similar to the DuMont Royal Sovereign, but the chassis are way scaled back. I don't know if DuMont built this set for Crosley, but it is definitely not the RA-119A Royal Sovereign. I could not find a SAMS listing for this Crosley model. If you have access to SAMS 156-5, compare the rear view there with the one below.

[Rob]

Oh man, the CRT has a filament booster on it. Drat.

Look at all that exposed HV !!!! The entire red funnel of the CRT is alive with about 25 kV. Can you imagine one of your cats 'investigating' in there?

Rob

[Eric H]

Originally posted by Rob
Oh man, the CRT has a filament booster on it. Drat.

Rob

That is a bummer but to be expected I suppose. That tube must be driven pretty hard.

I wonder if Hawkeye could rebuild it?

Yep, just looked up Central Texas to Springfield, OH and it's just too far to drive. Drove from here January before last to pick up a 621TS in Tennessee. Left w/my son early Saturday morning and got back Sunday afternoon, 1867 miles later on 4 yrs sleep. Don't want to do another one of those for 2022 miles, so...
Oh, alright, I might. But the divorce would be awfully expensive.

Michael

Originally posted by Eric H


I wonder if Hawkeye could rebuild it?

Hawkeye doesn't like to rebuild ordinary size metal cone CRT's due to increased risk of implosion during the process. I wonder if they would even accept a metal tube this large?