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07-23-2007, 09:49 AM
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Andrea 1f5 Auction Fraud
Look at this! My Andrea 1F5 TV photos being used in a fraudulent auction. Does anyone know where to go on Ebay to alert them of a fraudulent auction? I tried to send email to [email protected], but that address only accepts forwarded email spam.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Andrea-1F5-Telev...QQcmdZViewItem
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07-23-2007, 10:27 AM
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Thanks Murray.
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07-23-2007, 01:06 PM
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Very annoying! But eBay is usually good about killing the auction once the fraud is confirmed.
If you look at the bid history, that all looks fishy, too. Some of the "bidders" have zero history outside of this auction. This has happened to me more than once. The last time, a seller ostensibly located in Peru (!) listed some of the most valuable items in my collection, including the mammoth Scott 800B radio/tv/phono console. They used my photos and loads of text from my restoration articles. Somebody in a UK forum noticed that the shipping charges from Peru for a 200-lb console were ridiculously low, then recognized the Scott photos from my website and contacted me. Apart from pulling the auction and cancelling that member's account (probably created with fake ID, anyway), I don't know what eBay can do. In the cases where they pulled a fake auction after my report, I didn't hear anything back from them. I think their position is that privacy concerns prevent them from telling anyone what action they have taken. As a practical matter, it seems pretty impossible to prosecute somebody in another country for attempted fraud. Let the buyer beware!! Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
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07-23-2007, 01:58 PM
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Phil,
It IS kinda annoying, but I will be happy if ebay pulls the auction. I I agree with you, that is about all they can do, beside suspending the seller.
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07-23-2007, 02:01 PM
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"Invalid Item" now.
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07-23-2007, 02:32 PM
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It amazes me that anyone would use an antique TV as a fraud item. Anyone who buys or sells a prewar TV is someone we probably know. It would be kind of like stealing a world-renowned painting from a museum and putting it on eBay. Most eBay frauds seem to be digital cameras and name-brand clothing. Stuff that has a big market and many untraceable sources.
Then again, there was a bank robber in Los Angeles who wrote his holdup note on the back of his own house gas bill. ***Did anyone save the ad as a .pdf? If so, could you post it?*** I always save prewar TV eBay ads, but I was in Alaska for the past 10 days and didn't catch this one. Charles
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07-23-2007, 03:20 PM
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Yes Phil, those bidders (mostly me) were an attempt to make the listing look suspicious.
The first bidder's UserID in the auction was some form of the word broadcaster, the next four bidders (Bidder 2, Bidder 3, Bidder 4, and Bidder 5) were 4 of my own eBay accounts, used to make the auction look suspicious by bidding the item up fast from 4 different accounts in just a five minute period. One particular account that I used is eBay UserID coinfraudbuster, an account I've only used in the past to alert others to auctions dealing in counterfeit coins. Unfortunately, now that eBay has employed the Bidder 1, Bidder 2, etc. nomenclature, the anti-fraud name of that account is invisible to potential bidders in auctions over $200.
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07-23-2007, 03:37 PM
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Charles, I have it saved in HTML (about 90KB), I can email it to you if you'd like to post it somewhere for others to see. I'm not sure how or where to post an HTML page to this forum, if even allowed to. Send me your email addy to my addy below.
Jim Menning [email protected]
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07-24-2007, 02:54 AM
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Thats sad! Sure can take away some of the fun on bidding on some great stuff on ebay! A few years ago I had bid on a RCA 9T246 tv set and had won the auction at $126.00 this seller had other tv items and early radio auctions as well. I had never recieved the set and the seller never responded to my emails, of course I reported him to ebay. Later finding out the auctions the seller had were all bogus and others who won thoseother auctions never got their stuff either. I guess the saying "buyer beware" is very true!
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07-24-2007, 07:33 AM
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ebay should be a fun enjoyable expirience , but unfortunatly lately i encounter a lot of scammers . I listed a item a few months back and the guy won the auction and never picked up the item , nor paid for it . I wound up reporting him to ebay before the jerk finally responded to me .
Another time earlier this year i won a auction on a sencore transister tester. it was in Iowa , the guy charged me 30.00 for shipping . When the item arrived , it was basically thrown into a box with no packing what soever and of coarse it got damaged becuase it was not packaged properly . Anyhow i complained to the seller and he didnt want to hear it and said "all sales final " . I wound up reporting it and retracting payment and the guy started calling me a bunch of names through emails . So i am very cautious now on buying or selling on ebay .
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07-24-2007, 09:53 AM
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Before bidding on anything that costs more than a few dollars, I always send some kind of question to the seller, to get some sense of who I might be dealing with.
Not a magic cure-all, but better than nothing. Phil Nelson
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07-24-2007, 11:44 PM
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If it was something like "BRDCASTER", I think that's one of us here; a legitimate bidder. I've sold him a lot of TV items on eBay. Glad it ended, because I'd hate to have seen him get shafted! Charles
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