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01-21-2022, 12:43 PM
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"Mr. Loaf." Sheeesh! I don't think this person, whomever he was, deserves that kind of respect from anybody.
Forgive me, but I am 65 years old, I live near Cleveland, and am sick and tired of hearing about these rock and roll music people every time I turn around. I don't listen to radio much anymore because of that (just about every radio station in my area plays this garbage and I am tired of it; the classical music station, which formerly had a signal which reached all of northeastern Ohio, is now on a frequency that does not reach my area, by virtue of the fact that such frequency is right next to a country-western station on the FM radio dial (the classical station moved from 95.5 to 104.9; the c&w station is just 0.2 MHz down the dial, at 104.7, and the full-time AFC on my stereo system always pulls the tuning to that station. Please do not suggest I put up a better FM antenna, as I live in an apartment complex where outdoor antennas of any kind, except satellite dishes for TV, are not permitted). Why the company which formerly operated the classical music station at 95.5 decided to move the station to a frequency right next to a powerful station, making the classical station unlistenable in my area, is so far beyond me it isn't funny. The only thing I can come up with to explain this nonsense (strictly IMO) is the company which now owns the 104.9 classical station, which is reliably receivable only west of Cleveland (in the city's western suburbs), must think the area east of Cleveland is not sophisticated enough for classical music, while the area west of the city is much more sophisticated and deserves unfettered reception of the classical station. Cleveland may be where the confounded Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (! ! !) is located but that is, IMHO, no reason whatsoever for depriving the area of its only "good" music radio station. As far as I know at this time, other cities in this state (Ohio) don't have this problem; neither do big cities like Chicago or New York (those cities apparently have not fooled with their classical music stations at all as far as dial position, ERP transmission power, etc. are concerned), if I am to believe their listings in RadioLocator.org and others. Why on earth was the classical music station in Cleveland moved from its original dial position (95.5, where it has been since the early 1960s) to one that simply does not reach fully half the Cleveland area? Another change the Cleveland classical station made which I do not agree with is when the radio station became non-commercial (it was a commercial FM station until fairly recently). Now, 95.5 is a very poor excuse for public radio; please don't get me started on that, as I am annoyed enough already that the station has been moved to 104.9 MHz, with a puny signal (6 kw ERP, IIRC) which is absolutely nothing like the station's signal when it was on 95.5 MHz. Again I say, sheeeeesh. The entire FM radio dial in this area is nothing but garbage now, IMHO, and I do not like it in the least. I thought rock and roll FM stations (not to mention rock and roll music itself) gave FM radio in this area a very bad name, but what has been done to the classical FM radio station is at least 1000 times worse than how AM radio was all but wrecked strarting, IIRC, some time in the late 1980s or early nineties when it went to almost 100 percent talk and sports, again IMHO. (This was around the same time the National Broadcasting Company sold its radio network, which, IMHO, was the home of some of the best programming I have ever heard over AM or FM radio.) I guess the only way I'll be able to hear classical music in my area from now on is to listen to 104.9's Internet stream or on CDs (I have a few classical CDs here), although if I listened to this music over the classical FM station, I will be listening to the station in stereo, of course, but the fidelity will be awful, since my computer's speakers are not hi-fi devices (they are about 3 inches in diameter for the low frequency speakers, and about two inches or even less (!) for the tweeters). At one time, some years ago, I had my computer's audio routed through the computer to my stereo system, but I have since forgotten the connection scheme I used in order to do that. I wish I could find out, again, how to do it, as I am all but sick and tired of hearing this constant barrage of rock and roll noise (not to mention one talk station and a sports-talk outlet) from one end of the commercial FM radio dial to the other. Oh well.
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01-21-2022, 01:22 PM
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R.I.P. Meatloaf!!!!
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01-23-2022, 07:49 AM
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" Mr. Loaf" Marvin Aday was from Dallas. His concerts were on the level of a theatrical presentation.
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01-23-2022, 08:45 AM
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 Well said Ed !!!!We're right around the same age, and yes as you say age has nothing to do with what kind of music someone appreciates. Just because Jeff is a stick in the mud curmudgeon at 65 surely doesn't mean ALL of us older people are. I trust honest people who like what they like, and make no pretenses about being better than everyone else because they listen to classical 
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01-23-2022, 10:15 PM
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01-21-2022, 04:58 PM
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Meatloaf ?
I hate meatloaf ! My squaw loves it & me being the cook tried every recipe out there. They all suck. Waste of good hamburger & or pork. Now all the burger goes into good health food like meatballs, chop suey or cheeseburgers. 73 Zeno  LFOD !
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01-21-2022, 05:40 PM
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 "I would do anything for for love, , , but I won't do that
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01-24-2022, 07:25 AM
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RIP, Mr. Loaf ......
It is such a shame when people have to belittle/demean/disparage other people's taste for things, be it music or otherwise.
These are not decisions on morality! Just individual preferences which have no bearing on other peoples' lives. It is OK to just say something is not your cup of tea, and appreciate the fact that other people do like it. And not give a mile-long litany about yourself! Last edited by user181; 01-24-2022 at 05:59 PM.
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01-24-2022, 01:02 PM
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Can you imagine where the thread woulda gone had I went with, , , ,,, ,,,, Wait for it, , ,  "Mr Meat"  
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01-25-2022, 12:15 PM
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Jeff, I grew up with rock, and punk. I'm personally punk, but appreciate all genres, and certainly don't diss other people's taste. I have several albums in my closet and up on my hifi wall ranging from punk, death metal, and even county which were my grandfathers.
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01-25-2022, 01:10 PM
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I hope Jeff checked out the link to Classical 101.1 WRR. I've been listening to it off and on for a couple of days. They've been on the air since 1949. They've been classical since the '60s. Used to state "100,000 Watts vertical, 100,000 Watts horizontal". WRR uses no compression other than a limiter to keep those crescendos within the legal FM deviation.
In addition to rock I listen to jazz; fusion jazz, improvisational jazz, big band jazz which my father raised me on, soundtracks of movies... not much else. Some "rock" I consider near classical. Moody Blues "Nights in White Satin" with the full orchestration, Renaissance "Scheherazade" are a couple that come to mind. I do agree with Jeff on the state of FM radio. The radio "rock" stations here are terrible, seems they have a play list of maybe 40 or 50 songs they play over and over. One I will tune to, only because the keep their RDS time accurate so I can set the clock in my car radio with it. Then it's outta here! The only FM station I listen to regularly is 88.1 "The One for Jazz" KNTU from University of North Texas, in Denton. (used to be North Texas State University "NTU").
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