Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-14-2008, 05:58 PM
zenith2134's Avatar
zenith2134 zenith2134 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: UTC -4
Posts: 2,546
Can you do without color?

Was wondering how many of us use a b&w set as a daily watching tv?

I personally can do without color tv, but I switch it up and favor color sets primarily. I know some AKers probably favor their B&W sets though....Am I right?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-14-2008, 06:10 PM
Fisher-Dave's Avatar
Fisher-Dave Fisher-Dave is offline
AK Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alexandria TN
Posts: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by zenith2134 View Post
Was wondering how many of us use a b&w set as a daily watching tv?

I personally can do without color tv, but I switch it up and favor color sets primarily. I know some AKers probably favor their B&W sets though....Am I right?

I don't have a B&W TV but still enjoy watching old shows in B&W. I could do without color ok.
__________________
Stop rollin' down hill like a snowball headed for hell ! ...... stand up for the Flag and lets all ring the Liberty Bell ! ~ Merle Haggard
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-14-2008, 07:20 PM
MRX37 MRX37 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,579
I can't stand not having color. I have a Silvertone TV sitting in my garage that I won't bother with because it's black and white.

With a color picture, there's more information in the image and it looks more realistic.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-14-2008, 07:20 PM
eberts eberts is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 139
I hate B&W tv.

I like my13" color TV I bought at best buy for $59
2 years ago.
I only watch the news, weather, star base atlantis, and "the Shield" TV shows.
I never had a VCR.

Last edited by Eric H; 04-14-2008 at 09:17 PM. Reason: Inappropriate content.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-14-2008, 07:22 PM
wa2ise's Avatar
wa2ise wa2ise is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 3,147
Wink

I want a B&W HDTV set!
__________________
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 04-14-2008, 07:55 PM
zenith2134's Avatar
zenith2134 zenith2134 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: UTC -4
Posts: 2,546
TV does suck these days, and man a b&w HDTV would be pretty neat!

Remember that junky '78 Magnavox b&w I posted about...I have a DTV converter hooked up to it and I'm letting it run the "City Drive Live" traffic camera channel 24/7 in my garage...just want to see how long it can go for. (Yes, I am nuts, since I was a kid I did things like this) Anyways, back to the original topic...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-14-2008, 08:40 PM
Pete Deksnis's Avatar
Pete Deksnis Pete Deksnis is offline
15GP22 demo @ ETF 2007
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Big Rapids, MI
Posts: 762
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2ise View Post
I want a B&W HDTV set!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-14-2008, 09:19 PM
peverett peverett is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 883
I watch a lot of history shows and also the late night shows. As the history shows contain mostly B&W pictures and the late night shows(Leno and such) always have the same background, watching B&W is not an issue for me. I do it all the time my old TVs.

However, I do not have a desire for B&W HDTV-that would seem to somewhat defeat the purpose.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-14-2008, 11:14 PM
ChrisW6ATV's Avatar
ChrisW6ATV ChrisW6ATV is offline
Another CT-100 lives!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hayward, Cal. USA
Posts: 3,552
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2ise View Post
I want a B&W HDTV set!
I have the closest thing available. Casablanca and other classic movies on HD DVD.

When the story in a movie (or TV show) is compelling enough, you don't even think about whether it is in B&W or color.
__________________
Chris

Quote from another forum: "(Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did."
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-15-2008, 12:10 PM
dr.ido's Avatar
dr.ido dr.ido is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 550
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2ise View Post
I want a B&W HDTV set!
I've though about building a HD B&W set before. High resolution B&W CRT monitors are out there and are still used for Medical imaging applications. Megascan, Dataray, Cornerstone, Siemens and others made them in resolutions of up to 8 megapixels (3200x2560).

The earlier 1.3 or 2 megapixel models should scan low enough to sync to either 1080p or 720p, so driving them with a HD set top box should be doable (and as this is B&W is doesn't even need to be one with a VGA output, the Y output will do).

Then add some amplified speakers for sound and build a suitable looking cabinet to house it all (this is where I'd probably fail).

Finding the monitor would be the hardest part now. I let the last one I had go when I sold the VAXstation system it came with.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #11  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Phil Nelson's Avatar
Phil Nelson Phil Nelson is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,030
I agree with retrohacker that the absence of color doesn't detract from most TV programs. If you're watching a talk show or a rerun of Friends or Cheers, they're not doing anything creative with color. You're focusing on the dialogue and the action (if any). Who cares whether Rachel's throw rug is azure or maroon?

I wish that more new movies were made in B/W. Good Night and Good Luck, for instance, was beautiful to watch, and I never heard anyone complain that it wasn't in color.

I think we have lost some things since color took over. If you watch a classic B/W movie, such as a Hitchcock or Orson Welles feature, the composition and lighting, etc., for every scene is breathtaking. Those movies actually look worse when they are "colorized."

In the post-MTV age, many movies and TV programs rely on a machine-gun pace and the shaky camera style. Much less interesting, visually. There is more to cinematography than jogging around with a digital camera on your shoulder. Name one contemporary director who could remake a classic Bergman film in B/W.

Anyway, to answer the original post, I do watch my bigger-screen B/W sets regularly (the Predicta and the 16" Zenith tabletop). Those with 7" and 8" screens don't get much use -- just enough to keep them healthy. Fun to restore, but not practical for daily use.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-19-2008, 03:03 AM
Tubejunke's Avatar
Tubejunke Tubejunke is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Martinsville, VA
Posts: 1,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Nelson View Post
I agree with retrohacker that the absence of color doesn't detract from most TV programs. If you're watching a talk show or a rerun of Friends or Cheers, they're not doing anything creative with color. You're focusing on the dialogue and the action (if any). Who cares whether Rachel's throw rug is azure or maroon?
This quote pretty much sums up my opinion of color television and I have said it for years. I can't believe that most people I have told it to look at me as if I'm crazy. Of course these folks usually of the mindset of not watching tv at all if it werent color AND remote control. God forbid having to move a body part to adjust a television set!

I don't remember it being a big deal to get up and change the channel back when it was the more or less the norm. Of course we didn't have 200 channels. Now THAT could be a work out! Hey maybe thats why we need all of the abdominal workout info-mercials these days and the kids are pudgy....
__________________
"Face piles of trials with smiles, for it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave, and keep on thinking free"
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM
Duane's Avatar
Duane Duane is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 190
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2ise View Post
I want a B&W HDTV set!
There will still be digital artifacts.....
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-14-2008, 11:15 PM
Eric H's Avatar
Eric H Eric H is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: So. Calif
Posts: 11,565
The answer is NO!
I went the first 20 years of my life without a color set, I'll be darned if I'm going to give it up now!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-15-2008, 10:41 AM
compucat's Avatar
compucat compucat is offline
1949 Motorola 9VT1
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Suffolk, VA
Posts: 970
The only time not having color is a problem is when color is used to define something such as in a news program or documentary. For example "The red line on the graph indicates.... and the blue line is...., other than that, I can live without it. It is nice to watch my favorite shows in color such as Lost and House MD.
__________________
Just look at those channels whiz on by. - Fred Sanford
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.