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Old 09-13-2010, 06:09 AM
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Photos of extreme rare TV set from 1934

Hi everybody,

Recently, Gerolf Poetschke has posted some photos of an extreme rare early Telefunken FE III tv set from 1934:

http://fernsehen.bplaced.net/id065_01.html
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This tv set originally operates with 180 lines progressive scanning, 25 frames per second. Three surviving sets are known today. Happy viewing!

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Old 09-13-2010, 09:05 AM
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Kewl ! Very nice looking !
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:19 AM
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Wow, that set was way ahead of it's time. It's almost hard to believe that it's really a 1934 model, but then you look at the simple layout of the chassis and it becomes a little easier to accept. The square picture frame around the front of that round CRT really makes it look more modern than it actually is. It's a simple trick, but stylistically it's very bold. And WOAH, that's bunch of knobs! I guess there was a lot more manual adjustment required on a set that old.
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Old 09-13-2010, 11:02 AM
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That's the original back? That set really was ahead of its time!
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:39 PM
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Very interesting. I'd be curious to see the schematic if one is available.

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Old 09-13-2010, 04:09 PM
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Fantastic set Eckhard. It appears to be very original and very complete. Is it operational?

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Old 09-14-2010, 02:12 AM
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Hi Darryl, this set is not complete. As far as I can see, some tubes are missing. Nevertheless, it is in good condition for this age. None of the early German 180 line tv sets is in working condition, and I haven't heard that somebody attempted to bring one of them back to life.
Phil: I don't have the schematics, but I know somebody who has it. But he keeps it as secret as the federal reserve.

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Old 09-14-2010, 05:55 PM
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I never realized there were CRTs that big that early. Sure would like to see the layout of the HV supply.Bill(oc)
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Old 09-15-2010, 12:30 AM
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Are all of the knobs on the front of the set actually knobs? It looks like some of them might just be for looks.

Thanks for sharing!

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Old 09-15-2010, 06:57 AM
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CRT's were already to 9" by 1929. This one was 12" (30cm). The high voltage supply in all pre-war sets except the German E1 (first set to use a flyback HV supply and have a rectangular crt) was a simple high voltage line transformer, rectifier and cap. Nothing fancy, but deadly.

The knobs are all functional and can be seen here:
http://www.earlytelevision.org/telefunken.html

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WOW! A Third Reich TV set! That's weird! I know that some of Germany's top scientists were working with television right along with nukes, V2 rockets and other VERY strange "time warp" stuff like some believe that our government also experimented with as portrayed in the Philadelphia Experiment movie. Supposedly the destroyer escort U.S.S. Eldridge was made to turn invisible twice by the U.S. Navy in 1943, once it re-appeared in Norfolk supposedly. This is a good read; even if it is sublime to you! Either way, I think that it is wild to think that scientists like Wernher von Braun, Walter Dornberger and Hermann Oberth had a hand in early television development. Those guys must have known more than just rocket science to be rushed out of Germany before the Russians could get their slimy hands on them AND given immunity from war crimes trials, along with U.S citizenship and a GREAT job! THIS is a screwy world! LOL!
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I forgot to say that their CRT mask is sort of profetic to the tune of 40 years!
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Old 09-16-2010, 05:57 PM
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Eckhard,

Thanks for posting the photos. Wonderful attention to detail and craftsmanship. While this receiver was produced early in Hitler's coming to power in Germany, I doubt that the Nazis had their top scientists having anything to do with its design. The Telefunken labs did it all by themselves.

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While this receiver was produced early in Hitler's coming to power in Germany, I doubt that the Nazis had their top scientists having anything to do with its design. The Telefunken labs did it all by themselves.
Um, sorry, I never implied that Von Braun and his cohorts spent their days designing a futuristic television set at the Peenemunde laboratories as part of Hitler's final solution. However, it is a matter of fact that television was in fact ONE of the things that scientist were working with at those labs. One must consider how new the idea of television was at the time. I am sure that plenty of military heads were scratched in wonder of what possible application that television could play from a military standpoint.
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I forget the history here -- perhaps Eckard can fill us in. I believe that German development of all-electronic TV occurred with some international connections (to U.S. or British TV development), and was not 100% home grown. That's not to diminish the quality of the work in any way, and I'm sure there were major home grown contributions.

My faint memory of this is from the book "Tube" which I read several years ago. May or may not be correct.

That's a great piece of history to have in your posession! Price is not so bad, at least compared to antique automobiles of comparable historical significance.
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