Unique RCA 621TS

[decojoe67]

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/...-7-inch-screen

This 621, at the Elli Buk auction is the ONLY example that I have ever seen that deviates from the others. If you notice it has the "free-form" style pre-war decal on the front (all others have the post-war smaller, more block-style one). Also, a member on ARF noted that the rear badge serial number area deviates from the typical ones.
I think this was a VERY early production set. It could also stir up the controversy that the set, or some of them, were produced before the war. You have to admit, with the pre-war decal it really does look even more like a pre-war Vassos set. It's one of the more unique 621's I've seen as of yet.

[bandersen]

Well now you've seen two because mine does too

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by bandersen

Well now you've seen two because mine does too

Mine has the older logo, as well. I'll report the serial number later.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

Mine has the older logo, as well. I'll report the serial number later.

The serial nunber on my set is C015379. The earliest original tube code date is 7-13. The CRT was replaced in 1953, according to the code date.
It's an RCA replacement.

[bandersen]

It just went for $425 at the auction.

[decojoe67]

Interesting guys! I guess I must have overlooked the decal in the past. From a distance and at a quick glance you can be fooled. The other interesting thing is that the serial number on the auction set is written different too (?)
I feel certain those were the earlist runs of the 621 - maybe prewar cabinets?
I can't believe how low the final bid was. Somebody stole that set!

[bandersen]

I did a google image search and they all seemed to have the smaller block-style font so I believe you are correct that it is unusual.

The other 621 today went for $475. All the sets have gone for much less than I expected. Then again you have to pay nearly 30% in fees and taxes and deal with pickup/shipping.

[Einar72]

No controversy, the 13-channel format this uses was not the standard before the war. Also, the miniature tubes inside - 6J6, 6AG5, 6AU6, 6AL5, etc. - were new in 1940, so the design phase would have had to be rapid and thorough to have any sets in production before the 1942 consumer-goods cutoff. What we have here is a batch of left-over decals used on early production, IMHO, but I do like the old script much better!

[decojoe67]

Originally Posted by Einar72

No controversy, the 13-channel format this uses was not the standard before the war. Also, the miniature tubes inside - 6J6, 6AG5, 6AU6, 6AL5, etc. - were new in 1940, so the design phase would have had to be rapid and thorough to have any sets in production before the 1942 consumer-goods cutoff. What we have here is a batch of left-over decals used on early production, IMHO, but I do like the old script much better!

I like the old script better too. It would have been awesome if RCA had put the "Television" decal on the next speaker bar down like the pre-war sets!
The debate with the 621 has always been that, although the chassis is definatley post-war, the cabinet might be a pre-war creation by, of course, John Vassos. It still does not make sense that the totally modern (for the time) flagship set, the 630, was created, yet one low-production small-screen set, the 621, was commisioned by Vassos to be designed in the out-dated pre-war deco styling (?) I definatley believe the 621 has pre-war roots of some kind.

[Einar72]

Maybe they had the 621 7-incher in the works when production ceased. Vassos' design work may have already been commissioned, and maybe they already had it on-hand when all resources were diverted to wartime production. I've also seen an artist-modified photo of a TT-5 with a 10" screen added on ETF...

[decojoe67]

Originally Posted by Einar72

Maybe they had the 621 7-incher in the works when production ceased. Vassos' design work may have already been commissioned, and maybe they already had it on-hand when all resources were diverted to wartime production. I've also seen an artist-modified photo of a TT-5 with a 10" screen added on ETF...

I agree. I think that theory makes sense. I heard the 621 cabinet dimensions wouldn't have worked for a pre-war chassis, but then RCA might already have had plans for chassis revisions early on.
The 630TS was the progression of the TRK-12 and the 621, a progression of the TT5.

[Eric H]

Good grief, they're giving them away! Maybe I'll bid on some tomorrow, I'd have to have C&F ship though so that would suck.

I really think they hurt themselves by combining sets, often a very desirable one with something common that would have to be shipped as well, or as mentioned the two Doghouses together.

[M3-SRT8]

Originally Posted by Eric H

Good grief, they're giving them away! Maybe I'll bid on some tomorrow, I'd have to have C&F ship though so that would suck.

I really think they hurt themselves by combining sets, often a very desirable one with something common that would have to be shipped as well, or as mentioned the two Doghouses together.

Well, um, I bought the nice walnut 621TS, Serial Number C007180. It has the 'block script lettering.

It also came with a nice GE 805 with an excellent bakelite cabinet, and a decent 721TS, in walnut.

Price for all three? $450.00 out the door.

[decojoe67]

Originally Posted by M3-SRT8

Well, um, I bought the nice walnut 621TS, Serial Number C007180. It has the 'block script lettering.

It also came with a nice GE 805 with an excellent bakelite cabinet, and a decent 721TS, in walnut.

Price for all three? $450.00 out the door.

You did very well! A nice walnut 621 alone is normally at least 1K.
Enjoy them!

[Eric H]

Someone on A.R.F. said Vassos designed the 8TS30 also, not sure if it's true but that model does have a more pre-war look than the 630 does. I actually think the 630 is a bit homely.