Britains oldest TV!

[Dude111]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-for-5000.html

That TV looks awesome!!!!

I wonder who bought it,they didnt update the article...... Which could mean it wasnt sold yet...

[vts1134]

It sold at auction for $27,000+ (at the conversion rate of the time). MZTV in Toronto was the buyer.

[decojoe67]

I believe it is also the first production model all-electronic television in the world. I think it was wiser for America to wait a few years more to work-out standards in the industry. Glad MZTV got it. They have an amazing collection.

[Dude111]

Wow thanx for the update on who got it!

[Winky Dink]

What a fool! He could've got a brand new color set for less than that.

(This is the type of reaction I got when I saved our family's 1950 TV--"Why are you keeping it-- it's only black and white.")

[MadMan]

Honestly the cabinet alone would've made it worth saving, it's gorgeous.

[vts1134]

Originally Posted by MadMan

Honestly the cabinet alone would've made it worth saving, it's gorgeous.

+1

It's really stunning in person.

[peter scott]

You can find more information on these sets here:
http://www.nostalgiatech.co.uk/

Peter

[TV-collector]

The Telefunken sets are older, all electronics.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/telefunken_fe_iii.html
http://www.earlytelevision.org/telefunken.html
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...nfl0gjmfbbP9M:
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...5S62oHxgDqlhM:
Or read this:
http://heureka-stories.de/Erfindunge...nze-Geschichte
On the second page are errors, pictues with wrong discription :
-Argus Capitol
-Philips ATX

TV-collector

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by TV-collector

The Telefunken sets are older, all electronics.
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/telefunken_fe_iii.html
http://www.earlytelevision.org/telefunken.html
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...nfl0gjmfbbP9M:
https://www.google.de/search?q=telef...5S62oHxgDqlhM:
Or read this:
http://heureka-stories.de/Erfindunge...nze-Geschichte
On the second page are errors, pictues with wrong discription :
-Argus Capitol
-Philips ATX

Or this receiver that is older than them all:
http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_1932.html

The year on the caption is in error. These sets were designed in 1930 and completed in July 1931.

[Jon A.]

5000 Pounds! As Marty McFly would say, that's heavy.

[David Roper]

That article is chock full of inaccuracies. The set appears to be a Marconi 702, which was not one of the original dual-standard sets of 1936. The article gives the impression that there was a ten year gap in British TV service due to the Crystal Palace fire, which is a bizarre and absurd retelling of history. "Logie Baird and Marconi had separate companies but used the same people to make the sets, but Marconi became the most popular maker." Um, what? The auctioneer also claimed the TV set was a result of British radar technology from WW2. Hop in your DeLorean and figure that one out....

[damien191]

Originally Posted by David Roper

That article is chock full of inaccuracies. The set appears to be a Marconi 702, which was not one of the original dual-standard sets of 1936. The article gives the impression that there was a ten year gap in British TV service due to the Crystal Palace fire, which is a bizarre and absurd retelling of history. "Logie Baird and Marconi had separate companies but used the same people to make the sets, but Marconi became the most popular maker." Um, what? The auctioneer also claimed the TV set was a result of British radar technology from WW2. Hop in your DeLorean and figure that one out....

there was a small gap in British TV during WW II? they halted television broadcasts at the time for some reason or another - the crystal palace transmitter was more than likely the only one that reached his home in the 30's

"Britain: Television transmission was suspended on the day that war was declared against Germany. The Alexandra Palace transmitter was retuned and used to jam German aircraft navigation frequencies, and television manufacturing facilities were converted to make radio and radar equipment. Apparently, toward the end of the war, transmissions were resumed from Alexandra Palace in preparation for full scale production." earlytelevision.org

"ts analogue channels were BBC One and BBC Two (styled BBC 1 and BBC 2 until 1997). The BBC first began a television service, initially serving London only, in 1936. BBC Television was closed during World War II but reopened in 1946." wikipedia

Mr Davis bought the Marconi type–702 set on November 26 1936 / WWII Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945 - its reasonable to assume that as rare as tv's were they would not have been concerned with rebuilding the tower when there was a war looming even then

[ppppenguin]

Need to correct a few misconceptions in the last post.

TV started in London on 2nd November 1936 from Alexandra Palace. The first regular high definition service in the world.

It closed down at the outbreak of WW2 (Septemeber 1939) for 3 main reasons. One was that it was a luxury that couldn't be afforded during wartime. Another was the fear the transmissions could act as beacon to guide enemy aircraft. The third was that the skilled engineers and technicians were needed for work on radar.

The Alexandra Palace transmitter was used during WW2 to counter the "Y" beam navigation system used by the Luftwaffe. There are also persistent stories of the studios being used late in the war for TV demonstrations. Exactly what happened is still unclear.

After WW2 the service was restarted in time for the victory parade in 1946. This used exactly the same equipment as before WW2. Much maintenance was needed but no rebuilding of the studios or tower at Ally Pally.

Transmission was moved from Ally Pally to Crystal Palace in 1956. Studios remained at Ally Pally.

The 1936 fire at Crystal Palace destroyed the Baird company's laboratories there. The BBC TV transmissions were not affected.

BBC2 started in 1964 on 625 lines, UHF with transmissions from Crystal Palace. At that point the original BBC TV service became known as BBC1.

The 702 was one of the original sets released in 1936 for the start of the TV service.

The relationship between TV and radar in the the UK is interesting. A lot of technology was common to both. There is no truth in the often repeated suggestion that the UK government deliberately encouraged the development of TV in order to provide a good basis for radar. However in the UK we were fortunate to have developed CRTs, VHF techniques etc before WW2. TV also gave us a pool of skilled engineers and factories capable of making radar equipment. Radar IF was 45MHz (same as BBC TV vision) for many years, due to the good performance of a TRF TV receiver made by Pye which used the then new EF50 valves.

[damien191]

thanks - there were bits i couldn't find in the quick googling i did looking for facts, but i wanted to give some insight from the little i did know

now i know more... soon i shall know even more slightly!!!!