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11-19-2005, 08:35 PM
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1957' broadcast of Cinderella on CBS? IN COLOR!!
I was searching for some Christmas video's and ran accross an ad for the dvd of Julie Andrews in Cinderella broadcast in COLOR, on CBS. Anyone have any further info on this, this video is listed on Amazon, but say only the b & w kinescope is the only version that survived.
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11-19-2005, 09:32 PM
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I would think the BW kinescope is the survivor. Then again, there may be a color videotape either in NY or at Television City.
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11-19-2005, 10:18 PM
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From the IMDB:
Runtime: 76 min (dvd release) / USA:90 min (including commercials) Country: USA Language: English Color: Black and White (surviving Kinescope prints) / Color (original broadcast) Sound Mix: Mono A B&W Kine is all that survives, with all the quality that implies 
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11-19-2005, 11:25 PM
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That is so frustrating to know that there may be a color copy but maybe not available yet or ever!
I'll be so glad when whoever has all those early color copies releases them for sale! Hopefully they don't give us computerized fake color with someone's guesses as to what the colors actually might have been. Are there colorized B/W things that are very hard to tell that it's fake? Any examples?
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11-20-2005, 01:04 AM
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1957 is a bit early for color video tape. CBS was using Ampex qaud but it's possible an RCA quad at NBC was used to record it in color.
I think RCA was testing recording color around that time. The big problem today is if a tape is found it very hard if near impossible to get it to play back without banding ect.. but it has been done. There are good working quad VTR's out there for stuff just like this.
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11-20-2005, 02:49 PM
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Last edited by wvsaz; 11-20-2005 at 03:48 PM.
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11-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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There never was a color tape of the broadcast, but a B&W tape **was** made by CBS for the West Coast replay. Unfortunately, that tape is currently MIA, and its fate is uncertain... it may have grown legs and walked out some years later, or it may have just been erased and reused after the replay.
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11-20-2005, 04:37 PM
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Kev,
I believe the tape was bulked the week after broadcast.
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11-20-2005, 06:02 PM
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How would a 1958 B&W videotape have compared in quality to a kinescope, (assuming a 47 year old videotape, not when it was new) As bad as Kines can be I suppose were lucky they used them at all or we might not have ANY vintage live TV shows.
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11-20-2005, 02:32 PM
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Seems to me that a color tape of this would be unlikely since not even a black and white tape seems to have been made, otherwise why would they have bothered kinescoping it? Would it have been normal for a tape to be captured AND a kniscope filmed for rebroadcast?
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11-21-2005, 11:01 PM
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I say to heck with the crappy Kine version, get this one instead:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s=dvd&v=glance It truly does look spectacular!
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11-21-2005, 11:15 PM
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While we've got our thinking caps on, I STILL think I remember seeing back in the '70s, a special on Early TV that had Marlene Dietrich singing "Lili Marlene", & it was supposed to be one of the first color telecasts in 1949...It looked like a kine, and the color kinda went back & forth between being washed out & saturated. There really wasn't much color, just Marlene's flesh-tones. Maybe it was some experimental thing..Seems like the show was on CBS, maybe it was a demonstration of their field-sequential system or something.-Sandy G.
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11-23-2005, 05:05 PM
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You know, it's funny but there was a site a few years ago that had a very short online clip of what was supposed to be a 1940's CBS color kine, except that they were unable to identify the subject... which I seem to recall was a close-up of a blonde woman. Wonder if that's the same clip?
Along these same lines, I was just recently told about a reel of film that was found on Ebay, which contained two 1954 COLOR kinescope clips from NBC (though they were badly faded)-- a few minutes of an episode of the Dinah Shore Show, complete with a chopped-up but heretofore unknown NBC color ident, voiced by Hugh Downs; and the opening minutes of an episode of Eddie Fisher's "Coke Time", from March of 1954. Impossible things **are** happening every day!!  -Kevin
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11-23-2005, 08:05 PM
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modern marvels on the history channel
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11-23-2005, 08:11 PM
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Is this the one? (link below) It's Patty Painter on CBS sequential color.
In an email from Patty's daughter, Alexis Ward, in November 2003, she said "That is the first color TV demonstration for the FCC in 1946. She was 19 at the time." http://home.att.net/~pldexnis/video/...dSequential.rm
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