An Australian made Philips from 1985.

[dr.ido]

I guess this one falls under "sets you felt sorry for", but I think that thread was in the tube sections somewhere.

An older man dropped this one off the other day. It was probably up in use until fairly recently. I'd guess it's probably one owner and didn't get moved much until it's recent replacement. Even the doily shaped imprint in the dust on the top of the cabinet is undisturbed.

I was hesitant to take due to the usual space and back problems, but the nice condition of the cabinet, original remote and SCART input won me over.

This is an Australian made Philips from around 1985. Model 02KR786, KL9A chassis. With stereo sound, remote, and SCART/AV inputs its at the high end of this series. I think the only option not fitted is teletext.

Even the Nicad memory battery is still good. This memory stores not only the tuning presets, but settings for brightness and color. When the battery dies brightness/color reset to 0 when power is off and in some models (including this one) it can only be adjusted from the remote. Dead battery = no picture consigned a lot of these to the curb in the late 90s/early 00s.

Unfortunately the CRT is very soft, but I guess that's to be expected.

Maybe I'll stick it high up on the pallet racking (if I can get it up there) where I can't get close enough to it for the soft picture to irritate me.

[zeno]

Interesting. NA Phillips sold a 13" with the same style chassis
under the Magnavox label in the states abt the same time.
I think it was the only true Phillips Ive seen. NAP sold under
Magnavox, Philco, Sylvania & Phillips here. All old US TV companys.
Most of the chassis evolved from Magnavox.

73 Zeno

[dr.ido]

This chassis was used in many sets of the time. The extra options (remote, stereo, etc) on the sub boards are not fitted in lesser sets. The set above is 26", but I've personally seen the same chassis in 20" sets and I think there was an 18" or 16" version. Squeezing it into a 14" set would be cramped, but possible.

The family set in my childhood home used this chassis, though it was the budget mono, no remote, no options version. I replaced the CRT in that set as kid, but it was eventually curbed when it developed faults I couldn't handle at the time.

The Australian chassis were based on the UK/European version for the most part. Our power supplies were different as hot chassis was not allowed (at least for locally made products, I remember imported hot chassis sets had warning stickers and some places wouldn't take them). Our tuners were also different to accommodate some odd channel allocations. Otherwise, we are 240V, 50Hz, PAL so mostly compatible.

[Username1]

Thanks for the tour of that set ! ! !

Interesting that hot chassis sets were not allowed, or taken in for repair....? Was there some death over it that made the national news and freaked everyone out ???

[dr.ido]

I've never bothered to research the full story. The only hot chassis TV sets I've ever seen have always been imported European models that carried numerous warning labels on the back cover stating they were hot chassis (and usually a lamp holder with a small bulb mounted on the cover, not sure why).

I remember that many repair shops would not take these sets, and if you had one you had to find the nearest "European specialist". I don't think this part was required in any way, it was just that most shops were unfamiliar with them and didn't like working on them.

I've seen some off brand cheap color sets from the 80s that were obviously a 120V hot chassis that had been fitted with an internal stepdown transformer.

I remember finding an mid 90s US model Sanyo that ended up here somehow (probably brought over by someone who didn't realize it wouldn't work here). Compared to every other set it was just so weird - though I think the lack of AV inputs on such a recent set and use of those hex head screws that I didn't have a tool for weirded me out more than the hot chassis.

Going back further I remember an article in an old magazines decrying the evils of series string sets (unsafe, inefficient, something about power factor) when one manufacturer tried to introduce them. I've never seen such a set or even a picture of one, so I guess the campaign was successful.

[Username1]

Well thanks !

Possibly it was protectionism for the local manufacturers.... Today we hear a lot of strange stories about how China is protecting their local market in what seem strange ways that end up hurting the company that wants to move there.... Avon for example which among many cosmetics brands that have given up animal testing, was required to test on animals to enter the China market. Thus hurting their brand globally. Many people here are unhappy our gov. did not do much to protect our local tv manufacturing when Japan came in and did evil things here, like dumping cheaper more reliable tvs, and later cars in our local market. Of course if I were the age I am now when all this was going on, I would have been much more up on all the in's and out's of those stories... I don't remember much about the tv's but for the cars, consumers got a better deal.....

[dr.ido]

The old article was referring to a smaller local manufacturer that wanted to introduce a hot chassis series string set as a lower cost alternative to sets from the established manufacturers. While it was likely the other manufacturers behind the campaign, in this case it was local competition they were fighting.

At the time import duty and tariffs on imported electronics were so high that imported TVs were almost unheard off. I've seen a few small portable sets such the 5 inch Sonys and the like that were smaller than anything locally produced. I guess if you really wanted one and were willing to pay you could get it.

The cheaper imports didn't really start until the 70s when they started removing/lowering the tariffs. Philips themselves were importing the smaller/cheaper sets to sell alongside the locally made sets before they stopped manufacturing TVs in Australia in 1987.

[AndrewM]

That's a nice clean Philips. Give it a chance, you may get used to the soft looking picture.
The KL9 chassis is just a local version of the European K35 chassis. It is a hot chassis design which is why the 02KR786 models have that great big isolation transformer in the bottom of the cabinet. It's needed to isolate the chassis so that external AV connections can be made. The KL9 was only fitted in 26" 110 degree CRT models.

The sister chassis, the KT3, was fitted to the 14" to 22" models as it was for a 90 degree CRT so was slightly more compact. The 2 chassis otherwise look very similar.

As for the reasons why hot chassis TV's were frowned on, it was due to the DC currents they generated in the power grid when half wave rectification was used. Several early colour models (Blaupunkt is one that I know of) had to issue modification kits to convert the early batches of TV's to full wave rectification.
There was never any ban as such since plenty of hot chassis TV's made it onto the market. Even the Philips chassis in the 02KR786 is a hot design and had been since 1980.

[dieseljeep]

Originally Posted by Username1

Thanks for the tour of that set ! ! !

Interesting that hot chassis sets were not allowed, or taken in for repair....? Was there some death over it that made the national news and freaked everyone out ???

I personally don't see why many of the countries are using 240 volts, for domestic use, just for the sake of copper saving!

[dr.ido]

Hey AndrewM, was wondering if you were still around. You know these sets a lot better than I do.

Any idea why the hot chassis Philips sets didn't get the giant warning stickers of doom that the imported European sets had?

I played with this set a bit more today and I don't think there's much hope for this CRT. As is it is it's just too dim and out of focus to be watchable. If you want it you can have it. If not I may try boosting the CRT for the hell of it.

240V mains has it's advantages. I've run 2 x 400W + 1 x 900W RMS of PA on a standard outlet without popping the breaker, though it did sag a bit if we pushed it a bit too hard.

[DavGoodlin]

Thanks for the post! Philips stuff of that vintage is pretty neat!

Originally Posted by dieseljeep

I personally don't see why many of the countries are using 240 volts, for domestic use, just for the sake of copper saving!

Austrailia's receptacles are unlike the UK, which is also 240V 50Hz
https://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/powerplug.htm

I installed a UK receptacle in my kitchen for a 3000 watt kettle i got in Scotland. once we got used to water for tea being ready that fast....the wife had to have it.
Modern 240 volt receptacles in the UK all have switches. The plugs have partially-insulated blades so that a partially-inserted plug has no exposed parts. I assume 240 volts is alot more dangerous relative to ground (earth). I don't blame anyone that's afraid of hot chassis sets at that voltage.

The US likes things cheap and simple, IMHO. Thats why, with the exception of polarized and grounded plugs, 120 volt receptacles plugs and the like have changed little in 100+ years.

[zeno]

Interesting about the series string sets. In the states
almost all B&W sets used it & most colors up to 19"
The maggies I saw looked a lot like the Phillips but it
had a lot of modules. There was also a newer one board
13" set that looked euro & probably a phillips also.
Other than that the only euro sets we saw were Grundig
multi modes. Even with them most multies were Sanyos
Sonys & Pannys. With an AFB 10 miles to the east &
an Army base 10 miles west we saw our share.

Fun to see TV's from other countries, they sure look strange
to this Yank.

73 Zeno