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Old 03-09-2009, 03:02 PM
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Does this help? BTW, thanks for the memories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GohWSsFCkw
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:03 PM
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I've got some old tapes and DVDs that SHOULD have the peacock. I will go through them over the next few days and try to put together something.

Since they are compilations I'm not sure what tapes had the NBC programs. Please email me at [email protected] in a few days in case I forget.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:12 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZPXT...eature=related

Must have been for the broadcast of The Wizard of Oz.
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:41 PM
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It's for NBC's 1965 fall preview special which starts in black & white because it's hosted by Don Adams and begins with a scene from Get Smart's black & white pilot.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:05 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZPXT...eature=related

Must have been for the broadcast of The Wizard of Oz.

In those days, CBS broadcast The Wizard of Oz, not NBC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6C-R...eature=related

Would be interesting to know what VO CBS used re: the opening b/w sequence.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:19 PM
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Man, do I ever remember that last CBS link--cool!
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:21 PM
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Bob,

I understand completely you wanting to demo your sets using the NBC peacock with fanfare. Although when your CT-100 and 21CT55 were new, NBC was using a static color chimes (xylophone) slide as their color logo:
http://www.big13.net/NBC%20Peacock/C...C%20Chimes.jpg


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Old 03-09-2009, 06:25 PM
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I didn't know that Steve. Thanks for the tidbit.

I wonder if there is any color film of that floating around somewhere in the NBC archives. On second thought, I bet if I could get a high quality jpeg of that I could use my video editing software on my computer to turn it into a full screen mpeg video for dvd. That should be an easy one. I could even do it with other still of the peacock and do fades from one slide to another. I guess that is an option if I dont find the videos of the peacock.

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Old 03-09-2009, 07:44 PM
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About 8 years ago, someone was selling 35mm Peacock optical sound leaders on film cores (the little yellow things) at our favorite site. I bought one and it was almost devoid of green dye. Blue was just behind.

I think I gave it to a friend of mine from NBC who had won a national Emmy for camera coverage as part of a gag gift.

If anyone has a telecine and good correction software, I can get it back and submit it for trial. And maybe someone else bought one. She had a bunch for sale. I tried to buy a second one but got burned and she vanished.

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About 8 years ago, someone was selling 35mm Peacock optical sound leaders on film cores (the little yellow things) at our favorite site. I bought one and it was almost devoid of green dye. Blue was just behind.

I think I gave it to a friend of mine from NBC who had won a national Emmy for camera coverage as part of a gag gift.

If anyone has a telecine and good correction software, I can get it back and submit it for trial. And maybe someone else bought one. She had a bunch for sale. I tried to buy a second one but got burned and she vanished.

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I bought one, and the color was as you said. I believe it is truly unrecoverable. I tried various scanner software, some of which does an unbelievably good job of restoring faded pink film, but it would not work on this. Also tried a bunch of manual manipulation in Photoshop, with matrix calculations and the works. The problem is not only the fading, but the fact that the film is an Nth generation copy that originally had all the color errors you see, making the red and orange the same, the yellow orangish, the green dark and cyanish, etc. So, the restoration tends to restore those badly copied colors if it does anything.
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:51 PM
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I found one for Bob and will be sending it on its way to Wisconsin tomorrow. It was much harder to locate than I thought it would be and I have more than 200 hours of original programming from the 50s and 60s. My first thought was the '69 Super Bowl but unfortunately it's only got like the last 1/3 of the sound leader. Then I tried a '64 NBC promo tape and lots of cool stuff but no Peacock. Finally found a 1965 episode of the network run of Get Smart that had it.

Interestingly, I've got a bunch of old network tapes of shows run in color that were recoded at the network in B&W. Wonder why they would do that?? Anyway glad to help out. People on this board have been very helpful to me.
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Old 03-16-2009, 03:06 PM
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NTSC always meant "Never the same color twice"!!!!

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Old 03-16-2009, 07:25 PM
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Just wanted to let everyone know that Ian sent me a very nice peacock the he found and I will be using it when I get around to developing a DVD of NBC color intors.

Thanks much Ian!

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I found one for Bob and will be sending it on its way to Wisconsin tomorrow. It was much harder to locate than I thought it would be and I have more than 200 hours of original programming from the 50s and 60s. My first thought was the '69 Super Bowl but unfortunately it's only got like the last 1/3 of the sound leader. Then I tried a '64 NBC promo tape and lots of cool stuff but no Peacock. Finally found a 1965 episode of the network run of Get Smart that had it.

Interestingly, I've got a bunch of old network tapes of shows run in color that were recoded at the network in B&W. Wonder why they would do that?? Anyway glad to help out. People on this board have been very helpful to me.
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Old 03-16-2009, 09:53 PM
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No problem Bob. Anyone else needs one just let me know...
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Interestingly, I've got a bunch of old network tapes of shows run in color that were recoded at the network in B&W. Wonder why they would do that??
Like anything else, they did it to save money - it was cheaper to make a kinescope or videotape in B&W back then. The networks regularly taped live programming from New York to be played later on the West Coast - I'd have to talk to a friend of mine who has done extensive research into this stuff to see if it was regularly done with any color programming.
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