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Old 01-05-2014, 08:13 AM
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What to do on used sets?

I was wondering if you guys could give me a list of things you do to used sets. Right now all I do is dust them out and tweek the focus control. Is there anything more to do?
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:20 AM
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Well, on a set that seems to be working properly, do a visual on the electrolytic capacitors and change any that are bulged and/or have pus coming out of them. I'm sure others here can chime in with more.
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Old 01-05-2014, 01:46 PM
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On TV's that I used to pick up to fix and resell, I'd sometimes replace any known capacitors that fail (mainly ones in the vertical and power supply circuits) and I'd also resolder any solder connections that looked bad (that was back when I could easily get $50-$75 for a 19" TV). Now, used TV's are not hardly worth the effort and a lot of the sets I find today already work. On the ones that don't work, I do as little as I have to do to get them going. I'm sorry; but, when a used TV only brings $10-$30, I'm not spending a bunch of time and money doing "preventative maintenance" just so it will last a little longer. When all these people are willing to spend are a few dollars on a TV; then, they can deal with whatever happens or spend hundreds for a new TV with a warranty. There's been times that I've paid more for broken TV's than what I can get for working ones today.

If it were a TV I was fixing for my use, I'd replace any common failure capacitors and resolder any questionable solder connections. I'd also adjust the CRT drive/bias and focus controls, if needed.
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Old 01-05-2014, 03:38 PM
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Sage advice given. What I would do is model specific.
An example is Sonys that get a cold joint in the hoz drive,
blow hoz out, 2 power supply transistors & a fusable.
You bet I will solder that need it or not. Other common
things are best left alone til needed if ever.

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Old 01-05-2014, 04:30 PM
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I was wondering if you guys could give me a list of things you do to used sets. Right now all I do is dust them out and tweek the focus control. Is there anything more to do?
I do about as much as you do. Although I may do my first cap change soon. May.......
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:05 PM
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On TV's that I used to pick up to fix and resell, I'd sometimes replace any known capacitors that fail (mainly ones in the vertical and power supply circuits) and I'd also resolder any solder connections that looked bad (that was back when I could easily get $50-$75 for a 19" TV). Now, used TV's are not hardly worth the effort and a lot of the sets I find today already work. On the ones that don't work, I do as little as I have to do to get them going. I'm sorry; but, when a used TV only brings $10-$30, I'm not spending a bunch of time and money doing "preventative maintenance" just so it will last a little longer. When all these people are willing to spend are a few dollars on a TV; then, they can deal with whatever happens or spend hundreds for a new TV with a warranty. There's been times that I've paid more for broken TV's than what I can get for working ones today.

If it were a TV I was fixing for my use, I'd replace any common failure capacitors and resolder any questionable solder connections. I'd also adjust the CRT drive/bias and focus controls, if needed.
What if I had found my childhood TV, and it doesn't work, and I really wanted it working because it was sentimental and was willing to pay you a generous amount of money, and a case of beer?
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:21 PM
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It really depends on the set, stuff from the 80's will likely need nothing unless they use knobs, then they might need some cleaning and lube.

Some 70's sets like the Zenith CCII need to have the safety caps checked so you don't blow the tripler and CRT, and of course that era will need Pots and tuners cleaned.

Preventive recapping is always an option, particularly in the sweep circuits where the most problems occur. You can prevent a Vertical IC or a HO Transistor from getting destroyed with some fresh caps.

90's and up just watch them till they die then toss em.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:44 PM
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What if I had found my childhood TV, and it doesn't work, and I really wanted it working because it was sentimental and was willing to pay you a generous amount of money, and a case of beer?
Well, you could keep the beer; but, it you brought me an old TV and was willing to pay to get it fixed, I'd do what I could for you.

Several years ago, a guy brought me a mid '80's 19" Emerson color TV (the one with the chassis mounted sideways) for repair. He said he'd taken it to other shops and was told to throw it away. One shop told him, "throw that piece of junk in the creek and get you a real TV."

This guy didn't want a new TV, he wanted his Emerson fixed; which, I fixed and he was happy.

However, situations such as his are rare. Had he given me that same TV, I wouldn't have spent more than a few minutes and a few second-hand part on it because I would have been doing good to get more than a few dollars for a mid '80's woodgrained plastic cased TV.
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:47 PM
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One common problem I've seen on many later CRT TV's is lines and foldover at the top of the screen. This problem is almost always caused by a faulty cap in the vertical circuit. However, people will often run the set until the cap blows the vertical output IC. If they'd bring the set to me when it first started acting up, their bill would be cheaper and my job would be easier.
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Old 01-05-2014, 06:02 PM
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One common problem I've seen on many later CRT TV's is lines and foldover at the top of the screen. This problem is almost always caused by a faulty cap in the vertical circuit. However, people will often run the set until the cap blows the vertical output IC.
Good to know, now I know not to turn on my XL-100 again until I'm able to do a recap job. I fired it up for testing when I first got it and it has been sitting ever since.
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One common problem I've seen on many later CRT TV's is lines and foldover at the top of the screen. This problem is almost always caused by a faulty cap in the vertical circuit. However, people will often run the set until the cap blows the vertical output IC. If they'd bring the set to me when it first started acting up, their bill would be cheaper and my job would be easier.
When riding along with my cable providers tech (as I work for the cable company now), we went to a customers house, with foldover.

She was talking and said "oh that CRT is about to go I know", and we aren't really supposed to talk as I'm in training, but I had to tell her, it might just be capacitors and end up being an easy fix, as the TV still had a great picture, nice and sharp and bright with vibrant colors.

I don't know if she ever took my advice, but I hope she did.. Though it was a BPC TV from maybe 7 years ago, it's picture tube was strong. Just had foldover.
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:27 PM
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For as long as TV has been around, people mistakenly think that a vertically shrunken picture or no vertical deflection is a sign of a bad picture tube.
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:51 PM
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had a couple back in the lates 70s tell me emphatically,"when the front doesnt light,it a picture tube."they had an admiral solid state set with the good chassis but not so good crt.needed a tripler.i explained but they would have none of it.bought the set for 5.00.perfect cabinet and i installed a tripler the same day.set was a good piece but the crt fired up and wasnt as good as i like.installed a silvertone crt.looked really good but then along came a sylvania 25dmp22.it went in and what a picture!ran into the couple and they came and looked at the set.he noticed the dark crt right away."i told you it was a picture tube".couldnt disagree.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:06 PM
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I was wondering if you guys could give me a list of things you do to used sets. Right now all I do is dust them out and tweek the focus control. Is there anything more to do?
The sets I get from the G/W don't even need that. Of course, I buy the ones that are really clean to begin with. Sometimes, they even come with the original remote control.
You never see non-remote or knob tuned sets there. They must scrap them.
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:16 PM
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All the usual adjustments get done on the later stuff ('70s color through the '80s sets).
Grayscale and drive adjustment/balance, focus adjustment, pincushion correction, purity, convergence, vertical linearity, horizontal size if adjustable, tuner strip alignment if desperately needed.
All the little things which can take a decent CRT set and make it into a fine performer. Kind of obsessive with this.
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