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Old 02-16-2009, 11:56 PM
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One more --Beromuenster-- I think is Minsk.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:12 AM
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Beromunster is in Switzerland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beromunster

Yet another radio with a damn bloody live chassie.
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Old 10-11-2015, 09:22 PM
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Beromunster is in Switzerland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beromunster

Yet another radio with a damn bloddy live chassie.
No, its not a live chassis set, it has a power transformer in it, that's how its able to switch voltages! You can't switch voltages otherwise, and besides most if not all European radios I've ever seen (e.g. Grundig, Telefunken, Saba, Blaupunkt, etc.) Were almost always cold chassis sets (they had a transformer in them) which is how they are able to have more than one selectable voltage, otherwise they couldn't change the voltage without having a transformer.

I think you need to do your research better before just assuming that every single Radio from that time period was a hot chassis radio, when that actually wasn't the case, hot chassis radios (also known as AA5/AA6 radios) were purely an American design that was designed to cut manufacturing costs and that style of radio came about in the early 1950s and was usually only used on "cheap" plastic table-top radios (and later on in cheaper wooden tabletop radios in the early 1960s towards the end of the tube era in America).
Most Higher End/High End radios and record players still had power transformers in them and were even fused with at least 1 A fuses, the Europeans at that time absolutely despised anything designed by the Americans at that time including radio designs and it showed in the fact that their radio designs all throughout the tube era were exceptionally high quality and no cost cutting in the designs including using a fused cold power supplies (they didn't want to stoop to the cost cutting design low that America sunk to).
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:03 PM
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No, its not a live chassis set, it has a power transformer in it, that's how its able to switch voltages! You can't switch voltages otherwise, and besides most if not all European radios I've ever seen (e.g. Grundig, Telefunken, Saba, Blaupunkt, etc.) Were almost always cold chassis sets (they had a transformer in them) which is how they are able to have more than one selectable voltage, otherwise they couldn't change the voltage without having a transformer.

I think you need to do your research better before just assuming that every single Radio from that time period was a hot chassis radio, when that actually wasn't the case, hot chassis radios (also known as AA5/AA6 radios) were purely an American design that was designed to cut manufacturing costs and that style of radio came about in the early 1950s and was usually only used on "cheap" plastic table-top radios (and later on in cheaper wooden tabletop radios in the early 1960s towards the end of the tube era in America).
Most Higher End/High End radios and record players still had power transformers in them and were even fused with at least 1 A fuses, the Europeans at that time absolutely despised anything designed by the Americans at that time including radio designs and it showed in the fact that their radio designs all throughout the tube era were exceptionally high quality and no cost cutting in the designs including using a fused cold power supplies (they didn't want to stoop to the cost cutting design low that America sunk to).
Your wrong! AA5 hot chassis radios date back to the early to mid 1930's.....The first ones did not drop the entire line voltage in the tubes, but instead used a resistor in the cloth cord to drop the needed voltage that the tube string did not.....They had a penchant for their cords catching fire and were often referred to as "curtain burners". The first AA5s predated octal and their tubes had 2-3 digit ID numbers. If you doubt me I have a 1938 Philco that is a later example of that early design and it's tube compliment I could show you.

IIRC there were some euro AA5 like designs....Rare but I do believe they existed. Not all of europe was always 240v 50Hz.....They had various voltages in the beginning.
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Old 10-11-2015, 10:22 PM
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Your wrong! AA5 hot chassis radios date back to the early to mid 1930's.....The first ones did not drop the entire line voltage in the tubes, but instead used a resistor in the cloth cord to drop the needed voltage that the tube string did not.....They had a penchant for their cords catching fire and were often referred to as "curtain burners". The first AA5s predated octal and their tubes had 2-3 digit ID numbers. If you doubt me I have a 1938 Philco that is a later example of that early design and it's tube compliment I could show you.

IIRC there were some euro AA5 like designs....Rare but I do believe they existed. Not all of europe was always 240v 50Hz.....They had various voltages in the beginning.
What he said - the way you can tell a euro set is live chassis, is when the tubes start with a letter other than E, E meaning 6.3 Volts. Usually other letters like U or P or etc means a series string connection typical to live chassis design
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No, its not a live chassis set, it has a power transformer in it, that's how its able to switch voltages! You can't switch voltages otherwise, and besides most if not all European radios I've ever seen (e.g. Grundig, Telefunken, Saba, Blaupunkt, etc.) Were almost always cold chassis sets (they had a transformer in them) which is how they are able to have more than one selectable voltage, otherwise they couldn't change the voltage without having a transformer.

I think you need to do your research better before just assuming that every single Radio from that time period was a hot chassis radio, when that actually wasn't the case, hot chassis radios (also known as AA5/AA6 radios) were purely an American design that was designed to cut manufacturing costs and that style of radio came about in the early 1950s and was usually only used on "cheap" plastic table-top radios (and later on in cheaper wooden tabletop radios in the early 1960s towards the end of the tube era in America).
Most Higher End/High End radios and record players still had power transformers in them and were even fused with at least 1 A fuses, the Europeans at that time absolutely despised anything designed by the Americans at that time including radio designs and it showed in the fact that their radio designs all throughout the tube era were exceptionally high quality and no cost cutting in the designs including using a fused cold power supplies (they didn't want to stoop to the cost cutting design low that America sunk to).

I've seen a few too many of this poster's insults , Telling folks "Do your research" all snooty like , when it is HIM who is WRONG himself !

Enclosed please find a picture of my 1940s Grundig 5 tube hot chassis set that was built for the European market as it has no English writing on it whatsoever (it's all in German)

Look Kid , I know your excited about this great new hobby you've discovered , and sometimes youthful exuberance can be mistaken for arrogance , but you really do need to backpedal on calling folks out based on the limited knowledge you appear to possess about your new hobby .
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