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Old 01-15-2010, 01:16 PM
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It's reversed from left to right for me too. Mine was also upside down, but I just flipped the vertical polarity switch on the scope.

I can't produce all those markers at once with the equipment I have. It's either 1 marker at a time, or markers spaced 4.5, or 2.5mhz apart. Actually, it says you can take an additional signal generator, and connect it up to the marker generator, setting it to the difference in frequencies between the 2 markers you want, to get 2 different markers at the same time.
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:35 PM
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well I just realized my 415 has a horz seep norm/reverse for the trigger, so I just need to get a cable to hook it up to the external sweep and I should be able to reverse that image.
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Old 01-15-2010, 07:15 PM
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did the hookup of the to horz on scope, rev and normal did not reverse the image, just moved it over, oh well, not a big deal I just wanted it to look like the display on the the 415.... guess I could look at the scope or the 415 in a mirror...

will be hooking it up to another tomorrow, again same chassis just anohter TV so hopefully I can make a pretty much direct comparison, I will leave all the settings alone (bias,sweep,amplitude) and just compare IF strip to IF strip. I hope the next tv has a slightly better curve/marker profile, that way I will know I am getting the correct results. If they match this one, then I have to wonder if I am setting it up right, since a match to the same wrong profile may mean I am detuning something with the hook ups.

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Old 01-16-2010, 03:48 PM
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another set, this time with the injection point being the Osc tube with a ungrounded shield. I added a 44mhz marker, shown in the center of the two main humps

The second from the right is the picture marker, the far right are the two audio markers, there is supposed to be a small hump there, but you cant see it at the bias setting I am using to keep from flattening out the two main humps.

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Old 01-16-2010, 08:21 PM
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I am learning about this OJT, the TP was right next to a IF coil, actually INSIDE the can (removable shield). the shield alone would drasticly effect the tuned response as would the TP leads etc (this is for the demodulated IF signal). Anyway care must be taken for lead dress when hooking up to these TP's.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:13 PM
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here is the Emerson, the 1st pic is the B&K 415 setup with various markers set, the second is the IF curve.

note due to the sweep direction of my scope the IF curve is a mirror image of the curve plottted out on the B&K.

The picture marker on the B&K (middle of slope on right side) is present on the IF curve (middle of slope left side) its just not easy to see.

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Old 01-18-2010, 02:05 PM
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after consulting with a bud from another forum, I may try touching up the traps to get the bottoms a little closer to the markers. I hooked up the set to the cable and I get a bit of interference. I am guessing its ajacent channel noise that was not an issue with the DVD player. I am able to tune the VHF band ok, but the interference looks sorta like herringbone patterns (like it needs fine tuning but the fine tuning only gets it so far).
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