Roundie in Philadelphia

[JB5pro]

I agree with Dvae that $40. should be top dollar if dealing with fair minded people. I agree that many people skim the pages of this site and see what they want to see and believe they have something worth 100 times more than it is. I agree that if u can't find one anywhere 100 could be a low price but I recommend Daves approach to possibly get a fair price even if no others are around. At any day there could be 2 or 3 to choose from right after u buy it. However, I am sure it is worth going to look at and explain to the buyer all relevant points and most likely they will let u peek inside the cabinet and HV cage at the very least if they are in any way a decent person with half a mind or better. I think the fact that set exists after all the use it apperas to have had indicates a strong likelyhood it could have a new flyback and very good if not newish CRT.
I hope somebody can get to it to help avoid losing a new flyback and or picture tube. Even if you dont have room for the whole cabinet that I think looks pretty nice, you could save the parts and throw the cabinet in the trash (save some wood veneer for repairing other cabinets) which is much better than the whole thing being trashed which is most likely what will happen to it. I wish I could go get it.

[JB5pro]

Originally Posted by JB5pro

I agree with Dvae that $40. should be top dollar if dealing with fair minded people. I agree that many people skim the pages of this site and see what they want to see and believe they have something worth 100 times more than it is. I agree that if u can't find one anywhere 100 could be a low price but I recommend Daves approach to possibly get a fair price even if no others are around. At any day there could be 2 or 3 to choose from right after u buy it. However, I am sure it is worth going to look at and explain to the buyer all relevant points and most likely they will let u peek inside the cabinet and HV cage at the very least if they are in any way a decent person with half a mind or better. I think the fact that set exists after all the use it apperas to have had indicates a strong likelyhood it could have a new flyback and very good if not newish CRT.
I hope somebody can get to it to help avoid losing a new flyback and or picture tube. Even if you dont have room for the whole cabinet that I think looks pretty nice, you could save the parts and throw the cabinet in the trash (save some wood veneer for repairing other cabinets) which is much better than the whole thing being trashed which is most likely what will happen to it. I wish I could go get it.

no offense intended jeffs i put this here jus hopin my words are seen to get somebody to get the parts at the least cause i got a feeling that set is worth it. jus seems to be a logical likelyhood

[JB5pro]

More on my logical assuption... There is no way that is the original CRT cause it has no catatracs and the phosphor color is lighter than the original for that set. That fact along with the wrong knob and color controls that have been cleaned wrong erasing the pretty colors indicate the set was used alot and therefore had repairs. It is almost a certanty that the flyback was changed for it to last long enough to need a CRT. So, doesn't matter the circuit boards may be baked. You are likely to get a god CRT, Flyback, Yoke, correct wood veneer to repair cabinets and many other small parts, maybe even a good transformer. Then you are stocked tomaintain or rebuild another and just throw away all you dont want like the cabinet faceplate, etc.

[miniman82]

Originally Posted by JB5pro

More on my logical assuption... There is no way that is the original CRT cause it has no catatracs and the phosphor color is lighter than the original for that set.

All respect due, that is just as you said- an assumption. Just because it's free of PVA deterioration is NOT proof of other chassis parts replacement. I had an original Zenith tube in my closet that had no cats... The lighter color may just be because of the way the photo was taken, and it wasn't a very good shot to begin with. Also remember that not all brands used the same material to attach the lens, and there's no promise they all transmit the same amount of ambient light. Ones with frosted lenses will look different still.

That fact along with the wrong knob and color controls that have been cleaned wrong erasing the pretty colors indicate the set was used alot and therefore had repairs.

Again, conjecture. Proof of use is not proof of repairs. Just because a set has a lot of hours doesn't mean it had repairs, I've seen plenty of sets go all the way on all original parts.

It is almost a certanty that the flyback was changed for it to last long enough to need a CRT.

What do you base this wild claim on? Again, I have seen many sets with a lot of hours and original transformers. My own CTC-4 has a lot of hours on it, and aside from a flyback that RCA themselves changed (apparently due to a manufacture's update part, not failure as evidenced by the hang tags left by the techs), the chassis was all original when I picked it up from the original owner's home in Indiana. The CRT in it had been replaced at least 3 times, which can be seen by the glass welds on the picture tube. So by your logic, it has had at least 2 flybacks replaced right?

So, doesn't matter the circuit boards may be baked. You are likely to get a god CRT, Flyback, Yoke, correct wood veneer to repair cabinets and many other small parts, maybe even a good transformer. Then you are stocked to maintain or rebuild another and just throw away all you dont want like the cabinet faceplate, etc.

High hour sets do tend to have baked PCB's, but again, we can't see the back of the set. Mark's CTC-9 had some good hours on it, ask him what condition the chassis parts were in when he started...


I not saying this to be a jerk or anything, but there are some wild claims being made here. I know I'm not alone when I say that not all of these old sets were 'bad' with respect to maintenance, in fact some of them went a lot of years between servicing and never needed parts. My CTC-7 still has the original flyback, and has had at least one CRT replacement during it's lifetime...

[JCFitz]

Originally Posted by miniman82

All respect due, that is just as you said- an assumption. Just because it's free of PVA deterioration is NOT proof of other chassis parts replacement. I had an original Zenith tube in my closet that had no cats... The lighter color may just be because of the way the photo was taken, and it wasn't a very good shot to begin with. Also remember that not all brands used the same material to attach the lens, and there's no promise they all transmit the same amount of ambient light. Ones with frosted lenses will look different still.



Again, conjecture. Proof of use is not proof of repairs. Just because a set has a lot of hours doesn't mean it had repairs, I've seen plenty of sets go all the way on all original parts.





What do you base this wild claim on? Again, I have seen many sets with a lot of hours and original transformers. My own CTC-4 has a lot of hours on it, and aside from a flyback that RCA themselves changed (apparently due to a manufacture's update part, not failure as evidenced by the hang tags left by the techs), the chassis was all original when I picked it up from the original owner's home in Indiana. The CRT in it had been replaced at least 3 times, which can be seen by the glass welds on the picture tube. So by your logic, it has had at least 2 flybacks replaced right?




High hour sets do tend to have baked PCB's, but again, we can't see the back of the set. Mark's CTC-9 had some good hours on it, ask him what condition the chassis parts were in when he started...


I not saying this to be a jerk or anything, but there are some wild claims being made here. I know I'm not alone when I say that not all of these old sets were 'bad' with respect to maintenance, in fact some of them went a lot of years between servicing and never needed parts. My CTC-7 still has the original flyback, and has had at least one CRT replacement during it's lifetime...

I have to agree.He's condemning it to a parts set and hasn't even seen the inside of the set.High hours doesn't necessarily bake circuit boards.

I know I'm comparing a completely different set here but I have a 56 Admiral here that defininitely had high hours on it. only 1 tube was an Admiral tube and it was weak.The crt was missing the base but comparing the label with an RCA Silverama tube I have here which is identical I believe it is a replacement Siverama tube rather than the original further evidence of high hours. it's darkened somewhat around the heater area(I'd say from high hours) and it is even a little weak but has a great picture after about a minute or 2.The flyback and yoke are original though.

Only the area around the audio output tube is baked somewhat since it's a hot running tube that they pc mounted.

[JB5pro]

hey dudes dr. phil might call u "right fighters" if u keep misinterpreting my words. my point is someone should go check it out whether to save or parts if nobody else wants it .... doii