Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-02-2011, 07:21 PM
Sandy G's Avatar
Sandy G Sandy G is offline
Spiteful Old Cuss
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Rogersville, Tennessee
Posts: 9,571
Steady as she goes, Grasshopper...It ALMOST worked before, that is a VERY good sign...Somethin' THAT purty HAS to work well.
__________________
Benevolent Despot
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-02-2011, 07:35 PM
ggregg's Avatar
ggregg ggregg is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 702
The flyback might be quieter because it's not putting out any voltage. Check your work. Believe me, I'm not doubting your ability, but I still hook up stuff wrong sometimes and I've been doing this for years. Just did it on the last one I did. Also check the tubes in the HV cage, 1B3, etc. Make sure nothing is shorting and trace the schematic on each cap you changed to make sure it went to the same spot the old one went to. Have fun, this is what it's all about.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-03-2011, 05:30 PM
vts1134's Avatar
vts1134 vts1134 is offline
Looking For Time
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,534
All good things come to those who wait!!!

Spent some time looking over my work, going from solder point to solder point and making sure nothing was shorted, not soldered, etc. I also refered to my photographs to check polarity on the three electrolytics that I replaced. All of my checks turned up nothing, all looked good. What could it possibly be? I decided to give it power again and have a good look around and visibly check the tubes. I fired the set up and confirmed that all the tubes lit up. They lit up like a warm fire on a cold night. All of a sudden what do I see?



Wait for the set to warm up of course!
I forgot watching television as a child required turning the set on, going to the kitchen to get a bowl of cereal, and then returning to your Saturday morning cartoons.

Now I wait for my next batch of caps with a feeling of satisfaction that, lack of visible progress not withstanding, at least I'm not moving backwards.

Last edited by vts1134; 05-03-2011 at 06:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Phil Nelson's Avatar
Phil Nelson Phil Nelson is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,030
A raster, yay. The bright horizontal line is the classic sign of issues in the vertical circuits. It may be cured after you finish replacing capacitors.

Don't play it long in this condition, lest it make a permanent line in the picture tube.

Phil Nelson
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-08-2011, 05:39 PM
vts1134's Avatar
vts1134 vts1134 is offline
Looking For Time
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,534
I set to task today and replaced the multi-stage can capacitors with new individual axial lead capacitors.

Cans I replaced.


It was a bugger trying to find room for all of the new leads, but I got all of them in without any shorts.

After picture with the 7 new individual caps.


I have not yet plugged it in because I do not have a variac here at the moment. I don't know if that makes a difference now that I have replaced the capacitors but I wanted to ask all of you. Should I wait until I have a variac to fire it up, or should I fire her up all at once? I await the councils decision.

On a related note does any one have advice on procuring a variac? Specs, things to look for, price range, etc...?
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 05-08-2011, 06:24 PM
VintagePC's Avatar
VintagePC VintagePC is offline
Tube bug got me 05/2010
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 535
Quote:
Originally Posted by vts1134 View Post
On a related note does any one have advice on procuring a variac? Specs, things to look for, price range, etc...?
They can be quite expensive depending on the amperage etc. If you anticipate doing more work on tube sets in the future, it's certainly a worthwhile investment, but for a single set, the cost:gain ratio isn't that pleasing.

You can do without one, a lot of people use what's called the "dim bulb" (no sense repeating what's in a lot of other threads/sites - a quick search will net you the details) method to protect their sets when they fire them up; it gives a nice visual indication very quickly if there is a short, and is essentially a lightbulb-based voltage divider/current limiter.

Or, you can try borrowing one... there are plenty in many university physics labs and if you're friendly with the staff they might let you borrow one for a bit. I borrowed mine when I did my Fleetwood set.

Edit: Note that I meant you can use other protections instead of a variac, not that you can just fire it up without any safety!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-08-2011, 06:47 PM
vts1134's Avatar
vts1134 vts1134 is offline
Looking For Time
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,534
"If you anticipate doing more work on tube sets in the future, it's certainly a worthwhile investment"

Hehe, I think that ship is sailed. I'm in pretty deep already. I have a set in my basement ready for round two, and I'm constantly on the lookout for rounds 3-26.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.