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Old 06-23-2012, 07:59 PM
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Does that one use a NE-2 neon bulb in the burst gate area? If so, it can cause color phase/ sync issues even though the bulb appears to be firing normally.
I read in my book that the NE2-H was a recommended replacement. The grounding of the flyback aux coil (that triggers via this neon) may be faulty. This was an issue in the later rectangular chassis KC-KD-KE as well.

Edit: This book has a good bit of advise about alignment of the color circuit (a quirky GE exclusive). The predecessor chassis CA and those before were RCA design. The tint control is a variable capacitor for example. PM me if you want a copy of the 'CB' chapters.

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Old 09-04-2012, 10:31 PM
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back on it again. Had a weak video out tube, that helped with the brightness.

I was getting all kinds of RF interference, a close exam showed some breaks in the balun mounted on the tuner. got that fixed up then I lost color. I think it was just the color pot grounding on the chassis when it was in the tuner mount on the back of the chassis. Of course I broke the neon bulb while putzing around on the chroma chassis so I went ahead and replaced that. While I had the chassis out I replaced the broken thermistor (it was just being held in place with pressure on the leads) with a CL-90. I also checked the schematic, the hacked in resistor was two 3.3k WW in P where there should have been a 680ohm...oy.... anyway I did not have a 680 on hand so I went with a 830.

there are some .1 brown drops (1kv) in the vert circuit that I will keep an eye on. I did not have any sweep issues but one of them sits right up against the 6EF7 and looks discolored from the heat. I don't like to make too many "fixes" on a working set at one time, so I will try it again and see if the color is working again. If it does I will prob pull the chassis one last time to go ahead and replace those, as well as the .0082 in the feed back and the .001 2kv snubber on the primary of the vert out (its one of those paper in hard ceramic tube shell types).
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:56 AM
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I read in my book that the NE2-H was a recommended replacement. The grounding of the flyback aux coil (that triggers via this neon) may be faulty. This was an issue in the later rectangular chassis KC-KD-KE as well.

Edit: This book has a good bit of advise about alignment of the color circuit (a quirky GE exclusive). The predecessor chassis CA and those before were RCA design. The tint control is a variable capacitor for example. PM me if you want a copy of the 'CB' chapters.
I have the GE service manual book, is your book the orange one vol one by Robert Goodman?

Some other interesting things about this set. The CB chassis I have is for the round CRT, but the same chassis was used also for the rectangle chassis with a plug in board for the pin cushion (if I am reading it right) My set also sports the later tint control that has a pot with a variactor diode to act as a phase shifting cap instead of the variable cap.

If all goes well I will pull the CRT to remove the lens today or tomorrow, there is only about an eight inch clear spot so it should come of easy.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:08 PM
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I have the GE service manual book, is your book the orange one vol one by Robert Goodman?

Some other interesting things about this set. The CB chassis I have is for the round CRT, but the same chassis was used also for the rectangle chassis with a plug in board for the pin cushion (if I am reading it right) My set also sports the later tint control that has a pot with a variactor diode to act as a phase shifting cap instead of the variable cap.

If all goes well I will pull the CRT to remove the lens today or tomorrow, there is only about an eight inch clear spot so it should come of easy.
Then you people have the nerve to moan about the Motorola 6LE8 circuit.
I had one of those GE's that had a perfect RCA sourced Hi-Lite CRT in it. Needless to say, I scrapped that pig and installed the CRT in a Zenith. It was the last Zenith roundie they made.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:18 PM
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well the CRT is indeed a RCA Hi lite. At 1st the pic was not that great, but the last time I had it running with color it was looking pretty good that is after I replaced the video out tube. The Cabinet is blonde and in very good shape.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:17 PM
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I have the GE service manual book, is your book the orange one vol one by Robert Goodman?

Yes, it is.. I learned alot from those TAB books in HS because those 10 year-old sets started showing up on curbs and at VoTech.
My RCA vol 1 book by Carl Babcoke is tattered, bound with tape and smudged with notes, a treasure trove all these years later.

Funny thing is that Robert L Goodman also wrote the Zenith and Philco books the same year. Stan Prentiss wrote the Magnavox book and did a great job.

There are many I don't have in that series, but I just hooked a set of 14 of the books off ebay for $5 each, the original cover price. Hope to "get them for my birthday" next week
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