Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early Color Television

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-30-2013, 01:41 PM
Pete Deksnis's Avatar
Pete Deksnis Pete Deksnis is offline
15GP22 demo @ ETF 2007
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Big Rapids, MI
Posts: 762
Hmmm Since the model is not Patti Painter and the camera looks like a hand-made prototype, I'd say it's a pre-1949 version. That is, one that came before the sequential color camera CBS used in their famous 1949 demo that had 19-year-old Patti as the model.

Pete
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-01-2013, 04:33 PM
earlyfilm's Avatar
earlyfilm earlyfilm is offline
Eternal Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Culpeper, VA
Posts: 527
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Deksnis View Post
Hmmm Since the model is not Patti Painter and the camera looks like a hand-made prototype, I'd say it's a pre-1949 version. That is, one that came before the sequential color camera CBS used in their famous 1949 demo that had 19-year-old Patti as the model. Pete
I feel that Pete is correct that this must predate Patty Painter.

Goldmark, in his 1973 book, indicates that he used Patty Painter in the famous 1946 UHF tests where the signal was transmitted on UHF between the Chrysler Building in downtown NYC to the Tappan Zee Inn in Nyack, NY. I feel that this camera is 1945 or earlier.

This looks like an improvement on the WWII era drum based camera, but more crude than the 1945 one shown in the below picture from ETF.

http://earlytelevision.org/images/cbs_camera_10001.jpg

In the eBay picture, you can see a motor on the back that turns a color drum, similar to the motor and color drum in this picture also from ETF, with a silver surface mirror in the center to reflect the picture into a modified standard B&W camera such as the below1945 image:

http://earlytelevision.org/images/CBS_3.jpg

The hastily built aluminum lift-up cover on the right side of the camera is probably to hide the fact that Goldmark is using a normal B&W RCA camera with the lens removed.

I would place this camera prior to the 1945 twin lens drum camera shown above simply because it does not have a viewfinder and you get the idea that the cameraman is watching a monitor to adjust his lens.

The 1945 cameras had the left lens reflecting the image off a mirror inside the color drum and into a camera. The right lens went through a dove prism prism (or three mirrors) that inverted the projected image on a ground glass for the cameraman to see and use to focus as both lens were on the same rack mount.

Goldmark caught some flack in an early color test when someone caught the fact that the color was wired and not broadcast and this may have been the camera used for that earlier test. I cannot remember the date or where I read about it, but it was prior to the 1946 UHF tests.

James
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.