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Old 12-01-2013, 06:49 AM
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Great post, Phil. That should help Art immensely.

Wish I wasn't 200+ miles away, or I would have been right down there to test that tube for him. Maybe someone closer could help him with that? He's located in Bolingbrook, IL.

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Old 12-01-2013, 08:58 AM
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I certainly hope that this CRT is good. Not too many of them left in the world and any good ones would be priceless... well, almost anyway.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:49 AM
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Shoot, I would be able to test it for you, but I'm out of town for a while.
I live in Naperville.
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:16 AM
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Shoot, I would be able to test it for you, but I'm out of town for a while.
I live in Naperville.
When will you be back?
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:18 AM
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Well I felt ambitious enough to remove the purity coil but that is as far as I think I will go.

From the pictures this tube almost looks brand new.

And it is confirmed to be a 15GP22.

What do you experts think?
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:49 PM
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From the pictures this tube almost looks brand new.
Apart from the getter, the outward appearance of a tube is not very meaningful. I have seen cruddy, scratched-up tubes that perform like brand new, and shiny-looking tubes that were dead ducks. Looking at the getter gives you one clue, but that is not very scientific, either. A better test is whether it gives strong emission on all three of its guns, something you need a CRT tester to check. Even CRT testers don't tell the whole story. I have seen tubes that don't look so hot on a tester, but which make very acceptable pictures when installed in a working TV -- which is the ultimate tester.

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Old 12-01-2013, 11:34 PM
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Well I felt ambitious enough to remove the purity coil but that is as far as I think I will go.

From the pictures this tube almost looks brand new.

And it is confirmed to be a 15GP22.

What do you experts think?
I have seen a LOT of 15GP22's in our quest to attempt a rebuild. A good set of getters would be silver to possibly charcoal gray wtih some silver in the margins. I have seen getters that look just like these before. The tubes with getters like these were leakers. IE: they had too much air in them to function.

It is likely that when you apply voltage to the filiments, they will either light dimly and/or burn out.

There is always an outside chance that I am mis-reading what I see in the photos, but I would not be optimistic. I have seen bad tubes with getters that look far better than the ones pictured in these photos. Still, you will need to test it anyhow to tell for sure.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:56 PM
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I have seen a LOT of 15GP22's in our quest to attempt a rebuild. A good set of getters would be silver to possibly charcoal gray wtih some silver in the margins. I have seen getters that look just like these before. The tubes with getters like these were leakers. IE: they had too much air in them to function.

It is likely that when you apply voltage to the filiments, they will either light dimly and/or burn out.

There is always an outside chance that I am mis-reading what I see in the photos, but I would not be optimistic. I have seen bad tubes with getters that look far better than the ones pictured in these photos. Still, you will need to test it anyhow to tell for sure.
Believe me that I am not an expert. But looking at the getter flashing inside of the neck of the tube kinda looks as though it has leaked. I don't see the bright silver and charcoal gray. But that being said, I am NOT trying to rain on the parade. I sincerely hope that this tube tests NOS.

Best of luck, and I look forward to more on this thread.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:39 AM
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...it is confirmed to be a 15GP22.
Curious to learn what is printed on the connector. RCA perhaps? A date code hopefully. The earliest known RCA 15GP22 has a January 1954 date code.

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Old 12-01-2013, 06:43 PM
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Probably 12/28. We are celebrating our 1st anniversary together, in Mexico.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:51 PM
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Probably 12/28. We are celebrating our 1st anniversary together, in Mexico.

Congratulations. We did our 40th in San Diego this year.

Holler when you get back and settled. If I find another volunteer I will post the results here.
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Happy about your find. Hope it's a good tube. On the ETF website there are pics of John Folsom's prototype Zenith. It's the only TV among the others with a vertically mounted "signal" chassis, which might explain why your tube is mounted as it is. Could be from Zenith's development labs.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:22 PM
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I certainly hope that this CRT is good. Not too many of them left in the world and any good ones would be priceless... well, almost anyway.

I like priceless? .
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:48 PM
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Really looks like a test jig, but I can't see a service shop seeing enough color sets back then to justify such a thing. Perhaps from the development labs of a set maker who was planning to license the RCA designs?

The fact that the tube is a commercial 15GP22, and not the developmental type C-73599 would lead me to believe that this thing was built after the CT-100 was on the market.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:53 PM
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Really looks like a test jig, but I can't see a service shop seeing enough color sets back then to justify such a thing. Perhaps from the development labs of a set maker who was planning to license the RCA designs?

The fact that the tube is a commercial 15GP22, and not the developmental type C-73599 would lead me to believe that this thing was built after the CT-100 was on the market.
Perhaps a Motorola prototype or test jig? It was found in the middle of Motorolaland. (Although it lacks the copper mounts that went into Motorolas production models.)
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