philco 21" console to fix or not

[rcaman]

this philco model 22d4029g console has a nice cabinet and i have the parts to restore completly. the thing has to have a zillion hours on it as only 2 tubes are original. lots of work underneath the chassis. picture tube is a replacement checks great. are these good performers when working. thanks steve

[rcaman]

here are a couple pictures.

[rcaman]

Originally Posted by rcaman

here are a couple pictures.

it is a 1956 model.

[DavGoodlin]

Yes, it may be a popular model but keep it as a daily-use set if you can.

All original B-W programming looks better on such a set.

I used to re-cap then sell those to friends for the mid-70s video games thier folks wouldn't let them hook up to the "good tv", none ever came back go figure....

[Countryford]

I say fix it. It appears to be the same chassis as my philco in my profile pic.

[kramden66]

why not if the crt and fly are good go for it

[DavGoodlin]

The last year for Philco's flat chassis, 1957 sets were mounted vertically like GE and RCA.

To many collectors who prefer older post-war TVs, I justify the much easier efforts on these sets;

What makes it unique now is IT WORKS, everyone notices that.

[Don Lindsly]

330 Chassis. High voltage cage is missing.

Will clean up and perform well.

[Phil Nelson]

Originally Posted by DavGoodlin

To many collectors who prefer older post-war TVs, I justify the much easier efforts on these sets

I'm probably guilty of being a 1940s snob some of the time, but last week I put a new CRT in my 1958 Philco Miss America and I have to say the picture is stunning. The triple speakers sound pretty swell, too. It only has a 17" screen, but this is a TV that guests will enjoy sitting down to watch. The older sets are curiosities to them. They'll watch for a minute or two and chuckle something about what "big screen" meant in those days, and then start looking for more guacamole.

I think manufacturers had really figured out black and white TV design by the late 1950s. If you want a TV to watch, you can get many hours of inexpensive enjoyment from one of these consoles that is not on anyone's top 10 drool list.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

[Don Lindsly]

Phil:

You have raised my curiosity. I do not recall any Miss America with a 17 inch screen. Can you provide a model and/or chassis number? Thanks,

Don

[Phil Nelson]

Doh! Sorry, I was thinking about the 17" set I'm working on today. The Miss America (F4626M) has a 21AMP4 (replaced the old 21BSP4).

Phil Nelson

[rcaman]

i replaced the paper and electrolytic caps today. i have audio but no high voltage. it had 4 wrong tubes installed in it. replaced those still no high voltage. will check more on it next week. i have the schematic. this set has had tons of use on it. i will get her going. steve

[rcaman]

Originally Posted by Don Lindsly

330 Chassis. High voltage cage is missing.

Will clean up and perform well.

i removed the high voltage cage to clean the chassis.

[Tubejunke]

Probably all too often I have told the story of my near life long ownership of a 56 Philco 21" table model. I LOVE everything about this set. It's not the most exciting to look at, but has performed faithfully and unrestored for 58 years with what I think is the easiest chassis (TV330) to service ever made. I do wish that the c.r.t. came out with the chassis like many of that time, but it's not perfect I guess.

I am glad to see someone posting about these sets because they don't get a lot of mention, but should I think from the standpoint of being a good potential daily user which I think is important. Some of the real old stuff I wouldn't want to put a ton of time on, but find something that is still reasonable to use as parts can still be found and such then I think that it should be put to good use. So I hope that you get it going and become as impressed as I have always been with mine as far as picture quality and such. I say the longer mine plays the better it plays. Being unrestored I am sure that there is some truth to that with some component being slow to reach its working parameters.

I collect several different "old" things, and I try to use most everything that I keep, Well, except the two man crosscut saw hanging on the wall! LOL But the old TVs and radios need to be used; it's what they were made to do. If ya have kids, I think it would be good to interact with them on the use of an old set if you can get them away from their "smart" phone long enough. I have found that many young people are very intrigued by old radios and TVs

[edison64]

although these mid to late 1950s sets are quite playing in common now as well as still plentiful in 15 or 20 years they'll be as scarce as some of the pre Wars or even the late 40's sets wouldn't hurt to keep a couple around