Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Antique Radio

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-11-2014, 02:16 PM
wa2ise's Avatar
wa2ise wa2ise is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 3,147
Quote:
Originally Posted by Electronic M View Post
House fuses and breakers don't always catch failures. ......POW the insulation between the leads at the plug failed, and it let out a bunch of smoke and a pinky red flame from the plug after a moment of surprise I grabbed the cord away from the plug and gave it a good yank which managed to unplug it. The aftermath: a good 1/4" of one of the cord wires starting at the plug moving towards the toaster was vaporized, and the outlet and plate that I had changed months earlier was charred and had to be replaced. The fuse never blew!
Maybe your house used Federal Pacific Electric stab-lok breakers, electricians call them "No-Trip". http://www.ismypanelsafe.com/fpe.aspx. Quality breakers should kick out immediately when a dead short happens.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-11-2014, 04:54 PM
dieseljeep dieseljeep is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa2ise View Post
Maybe your house used Federal Pacific Electric stab-lok breakers, electricians call them "No-Trip". http://www.ismypanelsafe.com/fpe.aspx. Quality breakers should kick out immediately when a dead short happens.
There is no overcurrent device, even fuses, which is still the best overcurrent protection, there is. As long as the current rating of the overcurrent protection is not exceeded, it'll never open the circuit.
That's where, the new arc-fault circuit breakers, come into play! They're supposed to open, when it senses a arcing condition is present, as referred to, with the failure of the high current cord on the heating appliance.
That also could be traced to, back stabbed or loose receptacles, poor wire-nut connections, etc.
There has been problems, regarding oversensitive AFCI breakers, but that problems seems to be addressed.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-20-2015, 11:58 PM
quaddriver quaddriver is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Moved to Pittsburgh to be closer to Primantis
Posts: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseljeep View Post
There is no overcurrent device, even fuses, which is still the best overcurrent protection, there is. As long as the current rating of the overcurrent protection is not exceeded, it'll never open the circuit.
That's where, the new arc-fault circuit breakers, come into play! They're supposed to open, when it senses a arcing condition is present, as referred to, with the failure of the high current cord on the heating appliance.
That also could be traced to, back stabbed or loose receptacles, poor wire-nut connections, etc.
There has been problems, regarding oversensitive AFCI breakers, but that problems seems to be addressed.
exactly. A welder, pretty close to a dead short, is what one of these vaporizing cords become....
__________________
QuadDriver

Pioneer Silver-face Collector
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:54 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.