New Wheels

[pac.attack76]

I can't imagine owning a remake of the original challengers/chargers. These new ones have Alot of plastic on them. Just make sure not to get in an accident. The whole front end and rear will fall off. I've seen it happen too many times. If I was gonna own mopar, it would have to be the original detroit steel like Dukes of Hazard. The new ones do look good but they're just simpy clones.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by pac.attack76

I can't imagine owning a remake of the original challengers/chargers. These new ones have Alot of plastic on them. Just make sure not to get in an accident. The whole front end and rear will fall off. I've seen it happen too many times. If I was gonna own mopar, it would have to be the original detroit steel like Dukes of Hazard. The new ones do look good but they're just simpy clones.

Metal bumpers are only so good...My 1978 Lincoln Mark V has metal bumpers with plastic rub strips on them. I've hit snow concrete and a light post at low speed while parking it on three separate occasions, and that never left a mark (on the car), but the front bumper is mounted on shocks which add a weak point....Someone hit me from the side (at about 40MPH) catching only the front bumper, and that ruined one of the bumper shocks dropping half the bumper, and bent to other shock mount....Not to mention leaving a big dent in that bumper....I expected better from it, but I would still take it any day over the shitty plastic bumper covers on some cars. For instance my friend's last gen Prelude front end got totaled from a minor low speed crash, and our 02' CRV apparently had NO bumper or sturdy structure under the bumper cover (the cargo area apparently is supposed to absorb impact) and the rear end got DEMOLISHED in a crash that did not deploy the air bags....Still sort of drive able, but way too much metal was bent.

No one wants to get into a crash, but there are too many bad drivers on the road for ones number to not come up eventually, and anything fast like the Charger/Challenger if driven fast like the design begs is at that much more risk.

[pac.attack76]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

Metal bumpers are only so good...My 1978 Lincoln Mark V has metal bumpers with plastic rub strips on them. I've hit snow concrete and a light post at low speed while parking it on three separate occasions, and that never left a mark (on the car), but the front bumper is mounted on shocks which add a weak point....Someone hit me from the side (at about 40MPH) catching only the front bumper, and that ruined one of the bumper shocks dropping half the bumper, and bent to other shock mount....Not to mention leaving a big dent in that bumper....I expected better from it, but I would still take it any day over the shitty plastic bumper covers on some cars. For instance my friend's last gen Prelude front end got totaled from a minor low speed crash, and our 02' CRV apparently had NO bumper or sturdy structure under the bumper cover (the cargo area apparently is supposed to absorb impact) and the rear end got DEMOLISHED in a crash that did not deploy the air bags....Still sort of drive able, but way too much metal was bent.

No one wants to get into a crash, but there are too many bad drivers on the road for ones number to not come up eventually, and anything fast like the Charger/Challenger if driven fast like the design begs is at that much more risk.

I have a 79 Mark V. I prefer metal to heap junk they have now. Seen way too many problems around here with drivers. I was put in a cement wall at 60 with my 76 Mark IV by an idiot that felt he needed to be first coming off a highway and all I had was minor bumper scuffing. Moderator at the lincoln forum laughed and said was just a bruise. I say that Damn car saved our ass that day. And there were three of us in there. I have a 2000 dodge full size van that another idiot pulled out in front of and I was only doing 40. Had to replace bumper, lights, and fender.

[Carmine]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

No one wants to get into a crash, but there are too many bad drivers on the road for ones number to not come up eventually, and anything fast like the Charger/Challenger if driven fast like the design begs is at that much more risk.

Electro M, I'm not from the camp that wets itself in fear if I drive a car without airbags and 1000 pounds of safety sh*t. I have a few cars that never even came with seatbelts and they shall never have them! Anyway you slice it, still safer than a motorcycle. And I've also had huge old boats that demolished ugly modern junk... In fact, every time I watch this; I smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRJdHkvIRYw

HOWEVER>>> The Chrysler L-series cars (300, Charger, Challenger) are friggin tanks. Very strong in a crash, not just a bunch of airbags. I sold a 300c to an old man friend (he's 80). He and his wife got hit by a guy who crossed the center lane, near head-on. Not my buddy's fault, his damage began at the door. They both walked away with bruises. Car totally kept its shape. Yes, the plastic fascia crap was ripped away, but that car was tough.

Spare me the '59 Chevy video. Those cars were known for weak X frames when new. Total set-up. And whomever thinks that "crumple zones" began in the 80s; is a moron. More like the marketing began in the 80s. This look like an 80s car?