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Old 12-21-2019, 08:27 AM
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800-860 is the kit for this chassis when it uses a 4 lead cap.
I never did the math on the mfd value so be sure.
The cap has 2 pairs of leads that each pair read a short. One
pair is used to complete the emitter circuit, the other the
collector. If the HV goes too high they open & kill the HV.
Personally I would stick with the 22-5001 or a proper sub.

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Old 01-08-2020, 07:17 PM
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I worked on dozens of them, when they were relatively new. Two other components to check; the damper diode under the horizontal output socket, and the feedthrough capacitor in the collector circuit of that transistor. For a quick check of the tripler, disconnect the output lead of the flyback transformer from the tripler, making sure to space the wire well away from anything that it could arc to. Apply power; if the breaker now holds, the tripler is shorted.

Also check the electrolytic capacitor and the rectifier diodes for shorts.

I have many modules for that chassis, if you should need any.

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Old 01-09-2020, 08:53 AM
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I worked on dozens of them, when they were relatively new. Two other components to check; the damper diode under the horizontal output socket, and the feedthrough capacitor in the collector circuit of that transistor. For a quick check of the tripler, disconnect the output lead of the flyback transformer from the tripler, making sure to space the wire well away from anything that it could arc to. Apply power; if the breaker now holds, the tripler is shorted.

Also check the electrolytic capacitor and the rectifier diodes for shorts.

I have many modules for that chassis, if you should need any.
On sets where the trippler may be bad but no breaker tripping occurs the trippler can be checked by measuring the boost voltage with and without the trippler....if is is low with and normal without you know the trippler is done.
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It's been a while since I posted about this set (or on VK in general) so I thought I'd give an update! It was sitting in storage for a while and I finally decided to properly fix it since I know how well these sets perform and it's one of the sets in my collection I like the most.

I replaced all of the white safety caps with the one large four lead cap I soldered to the back of the flyback. It works fine so my math is correct, they do all add up to 0.01uF.

The breaker tripping/shrinking picture problem was indeed the oil cap in the PS as a few here suggested. It was getting untouchably hot before the breaker tripped. Mounted a new 3.5uF motor run cap, problem solved.

I also went ahead and replaced all the small electrolytics on the modules, resoldered some questionable joints and re-tensioned all the connectors and went over the convergence, just general preventative maintenance stuff. And I am pleased to announce it works amazingly well! I think it is one of the best looking color sets in my collection and I am very glad this set finally has a happy ending.

There is ONE more problem I will need to figure out once I procure (or borrow) a high voltage probe. I suspect it is producing excessive HV as even after thoroughly cleaning under the anode cap and the surrounding bell of the tube, it makes a continuous hissing sound and produces a lot of ozone. I've confirmed it's coming from the anode as bringing a screwdriver near it exacerbates the hissing sound, and once or twice I even got an extremely nasty arc that shot out from underneath the cap! The plastic does seem to be decomposing some (getting sticky and oily), so maybe it's becoming conductive? I also noticed the focus control needs to be at its extreme end for the picture to look good, so maybe that also indicates high voltage outside normal operating range? I know focus is often derived from the anode voltage though I am unfamiliar with whether or not that's true with this set specifically - I never did find a schematic for it. I will update if and when I figure that out, but for now the set works well and I am not extremely concerned.
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