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Old 10-13-2021, 01:42 PM
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17T1 Reference Material

While rethinking what I've done with this set I need to deal with one issue at a time. First issue is the wiring of R41, replacement of C37 and C39, and the destruction of the H-size pot. Everything I've said is based on assumption and memory (or misassumption and forgetfulness) from 10 years ago.

I'm going to post here several 17T1 and 19A1 schematics. I'll follow that up with photos showing what I really know about these components. Patience, please...I have to write everything offline first because of my slowness I can't even write a quick response without being logged off.

This is overlay of the Rider 19A1 schematic (Red) and the Telaides 12T1 (Black):

Adm 17T12 5000 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Telaides 17T1:

Adm 17T12 5005 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Rider 19A1:

Adm 17T12 5010 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Sams 19A1:

Adm 17T12 5001 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Figure 59 19A1 (I don't know what publication this is from):

Adm 17T12 5016 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Hand-drafted 19A1 (I don't know the source of this one, either):

Adm 17T12 5014 by H Boyars, on Flickr

R41 C37 C39 H-size pot in three different schematics:

Adm 17T12 5018 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Original R41 (It definitely connects to V12 pin 2):

Adm 17T12 5017 by H Boyars, on Flickr
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:02 PM
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More Photos from 2012

A few more historic photos for illustration.

Original C37 & C39 in situ.

Adm 17T12 9003 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Actual first replacement caps:

Adm 17T12 9002 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Damaged horizontal size pot:

Adm 17T12 9004 by H Boyars, on Flickr

Regarding my scenario of destruction of the H-size pot after replacing C37 C39 with 630 volt film caps. The problem with the image on the CRT may have preceded that blunder, and instead of one or both of the 630V caps failing, I could have miswired them
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Have you done voltage checks around horizontal, vertical and sync tubes? It would be interesting to compare to the values posted in the Telaides info.

Is there confusion caused by v12 being labeled as v13 in the Sams info and/or missing power supply connections lost in the fold of the Sams page?

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Old 10-13-2021, 06:55 PM
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Winky Dink, please chose a schematic and stick with it. You can't mix and match sections from different schematics.
Also you are just confusing every one shifting back and forth, the part names (like R41) are different between schematics.

If you don't have the correct parts needed you will have to get them.
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