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Old 02-25-2022, 11:45 PM
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Yeah, 60Hz all over. It's crazy to see the test pattern snap into perfection for a brief moment when power is turned off.
Perhaps you could turn off power to the DC supplies while leaving the heaters on
and vice versa, to narrow down the source of the 60 hz interference.

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Old 02-26-2022, 12:16 AM
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Whenever I see 60hz all over a chassis I think ground loop, which can be as simple as how you're hooking the scope into the circuit. For instance not having a good ground very near the end of the probe in the near vicinity of where your taking the measurement. I'm just making a general comment for those following along that may not be aware of that situation. It's more important when the piece of equipment is floating on an isolation transformer.
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Old 02-26-2022, 12:53 AM
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Perhaps you could turn off power to the DC supplies while leaving the heaters on
and vice versa, to narrow down the source of the 60 hz interference.

jr
Seems like the reverse would be preferable; kill the heaters, so there'd be several seconds of watchable display while they cooled

(EDIT.) OOPs. You aready said it. Dumb me.

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Old 02-26-2022, 01:09 AM
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Here's a set with a similar problem at about 1:00 in the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygpw87pqTz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSEMVpJ1hzk
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:53 AM
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Another thing is that the problem seems to go away when you move the CRT away from the chassis.
I just had a thought.
When you look at some of the signals with the scope, like the sync, does the hum look stationary with respect to the sync pulses or does the position slowly move ?
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Old 02-26-2022, 12:54 PM
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Here's a set with a similar problem at about 1:00 in the first video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygpw87pqTz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSEMVpJ1hzk
It sure does. That's a series string, floating chassis if I recall correctly.

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Another thing is that the problem seems to go away when you move the CRT away from the chassis.
I just had a thought.
When you look at some of the signals with the scope, like the sync, does the hum look stationary with respect to the sync pulses or does the position slowly move ?
The problem does not go away when I move the CRT away. At least not horizontally. Perhaps it's a little better vertically.

The hum moves slowly with respect to the sync. If I trigger my scope from the line, the hum locks in place.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:11 PM
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The problem does not go away when I move the CRT away. At least not horizontally. Perhaps it's a little better vertically.

The hum moves slowly with respect to the sync. If I trigger my scope from the line, the hum locks in place.
Oh, I must be thinking of something else. I had a thought that if it did go away when you moved the CRT away that just maybe it was the sweep on the CRT plates that was appearing on the sync signal on the scope and the 60Hz sweep interference on the sync wasn't really the problem. However since you can lock on the line 60Hz the interference on the sync signal does come from that source.
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