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Old 05-08-2023, 10:58 AM
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from what Ive learned the emerson 415 was also used in 416 and 420. I think the 420 had a tube socket hookup out the back for the battery cord but same chassis otherwise. Yes it does have a 600 ohm choke. When radio was powered on the magnet and metal around it felt like a field coil speaker. The coil measured 970 ohms. Power to radio is 114.4 volts to obtain 6.3 volts at filaments using a 10uf 370vac run capacitor for a furnace. would be nice to have a smaller capacitor but not sure thats possable. I know a 25.2 volt transformer wouuld definetly work as I have the radio shack 1.2 amp 25.2 volt unit I can use which might be safer yet no heat and no short out that caps can do. My wall voltage is 122.3, which if directly plugged into wall gets me 7.07 volts at filaments with the 10uf run cap
I used two ceiling fan capacitors for a tiny four tube radio. They're a lot smaller than the oil type motor run caps. The fan caps are rated at 250 volts. You can fit them almost anywhere!
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Old 05-08-2023, 12:20 PM
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Just picked up some caps and some are the ceiling fan caps. Hope they wont short out. Did ponder a fuse but not sure what amperage to select
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Old 05-08-2023, 01:38 PM
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looking for ceiling fan run caps but wow stores dont seem to sell them locally. Thought for sure Id drum one up quickly.
Fixed miswire of the 2Meg ohm and the 1 Meg ohm resistors off the 77 and 38 tube. Im hoping these arent 2000 and 1000 ohm and Im reading it wrong again as some of these sets meg meant K. Coming off the 77 tube screen is a 2 MEG and that goes to the screen of the 38 tube. I had the 2 MEG resistor going from plate to screen of the 77 tube. The 1 MEG resistor was also miswired. Now 1 MEG goes from screen of 77 to screen of 38 . The C bias for the 38 tube is 10.8 volts, not sure if .8 is close enough to the required 10 volts specified bias for 38 tube. Still very low output although slightly better after resistor miswire. j Also going to guess the .05 cap across the line isnt responsible for the extreme loss in volume.

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Old 05-10-2023, 10:34 AM
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looking for ceiling fan run caps but wow stores dont seem to sell them locally. Thought for sure Id drum one up quickly.
Fixed miswire of the 2Meg ohm and the 1 Meg ohm resistors off the 77 and 38 tube. Im hoping these arent 2000 and 1000 ohm and Im reading it wrong again as some of these sets meg meant K. Coming off the 77 tube screen is a 2 MEG and that goes to the screen of the 38 tube. I had the 2 MEG resistor going from plate to screen of the 77 tube. The 1 MEG resistor was also miswired. Now 1 MEG goes from screen of 77 to screen of 38 . The C bias for the 38 tube is 10.8 volts, not sure if .8 is close enough to the required 10 volts specified bias for 38 tube. Still very low output although slightly better after resistor miswire. j Also going to guess the .05 cap across the line isnt responsible for the extreme loss in volume.
The cap values are proper designation. Low volume on these sets are usually a lack of signal strength. Have the volume control set to max when tuning. antenna length should a minimum of 30 feet, 50 is better! Try adjusting the trimmer caps on the tuning condenser.
Is there any real strong stations in your area? 20 to 50 KW?
With the 38 output tube, it's only rated at .55 watts. Those sets really were never too loud!
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Old 05-14-2023, 06:21 AM
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The cap values are proper designation. Low volume on these sets are usually a lack of signal strength. Have the volume control set to max when tuning. antenna length should a minimum of 30 feet, 50 is better! Try adjusting the trimmer caps on the tuning condenser.
Is there any real strong stations in your area? 20 to 50 KW?
With the 38 output tube, it's only rated at .55 watts. Those sets really were never too loud!
one strong station and thats it. WHBC 1480 and its only 15kw. Im less than 5 miles from that. I usually only get 1480 and if Im lucky 1310 out of alliance ohio and thats 10 miles away WDPN. I usually lose that signal when it drops its power at night. Daytime I can maybe get it and night is good luck. Am 1060 is also dawn to dusk 15kw. I have always wanted to figure out how to get am 1310 after dusk but not sure if thats possable as IM 10 miles away from alliance ohio in east canton.
As far as loudness I only get volume the last 1/16 or slightly more of the volume knobs rotation basically 98 percent of the volume control from max. Seems somewhat odd unless I really do need the much longer wire for the antenna. Getting tired of trying to find the exact capacitor to make the tubes get 6.3 volts each. contemplating the 1n4007 diode approach. but if I were to use a diode IM not sure how much affect a capacitor would then have to drop voltage

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Old 05-14-2023, 09:18 AM
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one strong station and thats it. WHBC 1480 and its only 15kw. Im less than 5 miles from that. I usually only get 1480 and if Im lucky 1310 out of alliance ohio and thats 10 miles away WDPN. I usually lose that signal when it drops its power at night. Daytime I can maybe get it and night is good luck. Am 1060 is also dawn to dusk 15kw. I have always wanted to figure out how to get am 1310 after dusk but not sure if thats possable as IM 10 miles away from alliance ohio in east canton.
As far as loudness I only get volume the last 1/16 or slightly more of the volume knobs rotation basically 98 percent of the volume control from max. Seems somewhat odd unless I really do need the much longer wire for the antenna. Getting tired of trying to find the exact capacitor to make the tubes get 6.3 volts each. contemplating the 1n4007 diode approach. but if I were to use a diode IM not sure how much affect a capacitor would then have to drop voltage
Check the volume control curcuit and make sure of the resistance. Check to see if the control is the original! If a replacement was used, it might be not quite right! The schematic doesn't have a parts list and description.
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Old 05-14-2023, 12:48 PM
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Ok added some more antenna wire and it didnt do much UNTIL I retweaked the trimmer caps on the tuner and that woke it up. So now it still sounds like it needs more cap filters and the dreaded speaker rattle.
Ripped off what was left of the outter speaker gasket and cut out a new one from poster board. Not quite thick enough so I will double up another gasket. speaker rattle seems gone. This set must have been really wet or dropped in a bathtub yet still works.

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Old 05-13-2023, 04:37 PM
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bought ceiling fan caps that have 4.5 5 and 6uf with a common gray wire. I figured I could parallel the cap itself with the values it has to get various values but if I use more than one colored wire, the radio tubes light at a much lower line voltage. Seems to only work if I parallel 2 separate physical caps together. CBB 61 is the ceiling fan cap number. NOt sure why they have 2 gray wires on these caps if they are tied to the same common end internally.
I series strung the 2 cbb 61 caps at 16uf to make 8 uf and tube voltage is 7.02 volts. Going to guess a 7 or 7.5 cap will do it.

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Old 05-10-2023, 10:23 AM
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Just picked up some caps and some are the ceiling fan caps. Hope they wont short out. Did ponder a fuse but not sure what amperage to select
I got my ceiling fan caps from scrap fans. I kept the caps and the pull switches.
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