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Old 01-02-2024, 10:19 AM
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By the way, you said the 8200 ohm is hard to get to. Were you able to check the coil winding it is attached to?
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Old 01-02-2024, 11:12 AM
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I removed the coil from the chassis and then was able to remove and measure the 8.2k resistor. The resistor measured 8.24k. Also the 36pf capacitor measures 36.14pf. I have a used pull spare transformer so I could measures against each other measure, they are very close in resistance and inductance so I assume good vs both bad.

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  • Coil 1: 2.94 ohms (37.6uh to 68.8uh)
  • Coil 2 (with center tap): .97 + 3.11 ohms (67.58uh to 120.5uh across full coil)
Spare
  • Coil 1: 2.91 ohms (38.27uh to 70.45uh)
  • Coil 2 (with center tap): 1.03 + 3.08 ohms (68.57uh to 123.3uh across full coil)
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Old 01-06-2024, 11:00 AM
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I have replaced the out of spec capacitors but get the same response. Something interesting; the directions state to set the color level to the mid-point, I found turning the color level to approx 1/4 I could get a much better response curve.

I pulled the lead on the color level pot and did some measuring, the spec is 25k, mine measures 1.78 ohms to 29.624k. The taper appears to be a steep logarithmic curve, my mid-point measures 1.375k, and the 1/4 setting is approx 700 ohms. Someone with math skills could probably calculate what the midpoint value should be for a 25k pot. Directionally I know my midpoint is shifted up since my pot measures high.

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Old 01-06-2024, 12:43 PM
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SAMS shows the color level replacement as Mallory part number PP253R which uses their #2 right hand logarithmic taper. The chart shows at 50% it should be at 90% resistance (2.5K where mine measures 1.375K). Now it's possible that Zenith used a special logarithmic taper and the Mallory part is all that was available for the aftermarket.

It's odd that my pot being 20% high measures lower than what the Mallory chart says it should be but also odd I need way less resistance to get a good curve (300 to 700 ohms is the range that appears to be a happy medium when adjusting L17 and L19 yield a proper response curve).

Should I move on or does having to set the color level way high (1/4 turn from max) suggest there are other problems?

*Edit* The other factor is the signal level from the B&K 415 going into C1, I have it maxed out but as I turn it up I am able to back off the color level just a small bit. I suspect the only issue is I don't have enough signal strength going in. In the subsequent Zenith Service Manual (CM-107) for the next roundie series chassis the directions include a note that the signal generator and scope may need to be set near the maximum, but don't overload.


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Old 01-06-2024, 05:12 PM
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Continuing along the next few steps went well.

Color Sync Alignment
  • Color switch on, color level set to the halfway point
  • Color Bar generator connected to antenna terminals set to Color Bar Pattern
  • Connect a .01uf capacitor from test point L to ground
  • Ground test point K
  • Adjust L34 for zero beat on screen and minimum movement of color bars through picture (they were visible and a very slight adjustment removed these)
  • Next set VTVM to +50v DC range
  • Connect VTVM to test point V, adjust T20 top slug for maximum indication (very little adjustment was needed)
  • Connect VTVM to test point V, adjust T20 bottom slug for minimum indication (very little adjustment was needed here too)
  • Note T20 slugs should be on outside end of coil not towards the middle
  • Remove ground from Test Point K and .01uf capacitor from test point L
  • Color switch on, color level set to the halfway point
  • Color Bar generator connected to antenna terminals set to Gated Rainbow
  • Connect scope to test point R, adjust L29 Burst Amplifier Plate coil to match Figure 15A (a small amount of adjustment was needed)
  • The second and forth bars should be equal in amplitude
  • Connect scope to test point S
  • If needed touch up T20 bottom slug quadrature coil to match 15B (a small amount of adjustment was needed)
  • 5th and 7th bars equal in amplitude
  • Note slug should require a very minimal amount of adjustment

Color Level Adjustment
  • Color Bar generator connected to antenna terminals set to Color Test Pattern
  • Connect scope to test point R and set color level to minimum
  • Adjust L18 for minimum color output at test point R (a very small amount of adjustment was needed)
  • Essentially the picture should be black and white only

Range Check of Hue Control
  • Color Bar generator connected to antenna terminals set to Gated Rainbow
  • Connect scope to test point R and set hue control to maximum counter clockwise
  • First and third color bars should be equal in amplitude (second color bar maximum)
  • If not touch up L29 Burst Amplifier Plate coil for equal amplitude of first and third color bars (a very small amount of adjustment was needed)
  • Connect scope to test point R and set hue control to maximum clockwise
  • 4th and 5th color bars should be equal in amplitude (they were)
  • Note if only the 3rd and 5th color bars can be made equal than this is acceptable
  • Connect scope to test point R
  • Set hue control for equal amplitude of 2nd and 4th (3rd color bar at maximum)
  • Now connect scope to test point T
  • Color pattern should appear as shown in figure 15C (No pic but it matched)

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