Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-12-2025, 01:14 PM
CJVx CJVx is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 56
Actual purpose of dag coating?

I looked around and couldn’t find an actual described purpose of the coating. I ask because I have a few TVs with various states of missing dag, But don’t seem to have any operational issues, however, there is room for improvement. Wondering what I could be missing should I redo the dag.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-12-2025, 03:20 PM
ARC Tech-109 ARC Tech-109 is offline
Retired Batwings Tech
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 594
Its the negative plate of the vacuum capacitor of the pix tube glass bell
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-12-2025, 04:09 PM
CJVx CJVx is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by ARC Tech-109 View Post
Its the negative plate of the vacuum capacitor of the pix tube glass bell
All right, so what would happen should the dag not be present?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-12-2025, 06:47 PM
zeno's Avatar
zeno zeno is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 4,918
The CRT bell is a big capasitor. One plate is inside the CRT & hooked
to the HV lead. The glass is the dielectric. The dag is the other plate
of the cap. Without the dag the HV is unfiltered & instead of DC the HV
will be pulsating.
You can recoat it but MUST follow the old pattern.
The dag usually goes to chassis ground via a long spring across the dag.
If much of the dag is missing you may get arcing, hissing & ozone smell.
HV will also be reduced. The other thing is if the dag is flaking off the
flakes fall onto the chassis & can cause shorts.
73 Zeno
LFOD !
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-15-2025, 12:22 PM
Alex KL-1 Alex KL-1 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Brazil (Paraná)
Posts: 515
Basically, old models using eg. metal coned CRT uses external capacitor (a "doorknob" type).
__________________
So many projects, so little time...
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 01-16-2025, 12:08 AM
Electronic M's Avatar
Electronic M Electronic M is offline
M is for Memory
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pewaukee/Delafield Wi
Posts: 15,445
Slipplate is a good replacement coating. Generally you want to avoid dag islands as they can arc to each other and cause picture disturbance/video noise, and if arcing between islands (or between the dag and a poorly contacting ground strap) is constant and bad enough it can unevenly heat the glass and cause implosion.
__________________
Tom C.

Zenith: The quality stays in EVEN after the name falls off!
What I want. --> http://www.videokarma.org/showpost.p...62&postcount=4
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-16-2025, 06:00 AM
Yamamaya42's Avatar
Yamamaya42 Yamamaya42 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Round Rock TX
Posts: 3,180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Electronic M View Post
Slipplate is a good replacement coating. Generally you want to avoid dag islands as they can arc to each other and cause picture disturbance/video noise, and if arcing between islands (or between the dag and a poorly contacting ground strap) is constant and bad enough it can unevenly heat the glass and cause implosion.
dag islands ? aren't they just off the coast of Florida?
__________________
=^-^=
Yasashii yoru ni hitori utau uta. Asu wa kimi to utaou. Yume no tsubasa ni notte.
いとおしい人のために
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-16-2025, 10:24 AM
ARC Tech-109 ARC Tech-109 is offline
Retired Batwings Tech
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 594
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 View Post
dag islands ? aren't they just off the coast of Florida?
They could be yours if the price is right
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-17-2025, 01:30 AM
TV-collector's Avatar
TV-collector TV-collector is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Düsseldorf / Germany
Posts: 276
If you have graphite dust / -flour you can mix it with wood glue and paint it with a paint brush on the right areas.
That advice came from my physics teacher in the 70s and it worked very well!
Please clean areas in question before.

Regards,
TV-collector
__________________
Scotty, beam me up, there is no more 4/3 Television and AM radio in Germany!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:16 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.