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Old 06-18-2012, 10:15 AM
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Any interest in *new* 16AP4's?

I just found out that RACS may be able to build brand new 16AP4's, but need to see if there's any interest out there.

Here's the skinny:

RACS does radar tubes for the military, but these have a special phosphor on them. Since they are the same metal shell tube having the same dimensions as a 16AP4, I asked if they could put P4 phospor in them. The answer is yes, not only that they have brand new ones ready for building (about 6).


The electron gun would be straight (so no ion trap), and the tube would be aluminized. If you would be interested, reply here and state the amount you'd be willing to pay for such an item. RACS is closing soon and whatever isn't used will be recycled, so it only makes sense to make use of what we can before that time.
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Is RACS the source of the radar display P-7 tubes for the Moscow airport?

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=254459

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:35 PM
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Could be, as long as they are 16" tubes.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:44 PM
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I'd be interested in one if the cost was reasonable but I doubt if it will be with the shipping and all.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:52 PM
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A 16GP4 is a 70 degree tube. I would be interested in a 16AP4 which is a 50 degree tube.

Do they have any shells? Otherwise I have a couple of duds.

Question: the HV (EHT) of the late 40's sets using a 16AP4 is only 10 to 12 kV. Will the aluminized screen be as bright? Perhaps brighter?

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Aluminized tubes tend to be brighter. There is a difference in length as well, the AP is shorter by quite a bit.
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Old 06-18-2012, 05:13 PM
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Aluminized tubes tend to be brighter. There is a difference in length as well, the AP is shorter by quite a bit.

I think you have that backwards, the 16AP4 is much longer than the 16GP4

22 inches vs 17 inches for the GP4
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Oops, I had it backwards. This would be the longer tube. Title edited.
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A little text editing will avoid further confusion.
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I would be interested in what RACS would price an "new" 16GP4 at. Shipping costs are going to really up the cost.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:42 PM
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Since I have a couple of KCS-47's, I would be open to try adapting a 16G instead of a 16A. Willing to try, what with all that tinkerin' that would be needed. I'd be interested, at a reasonable price...
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Please post what you;d be willing to pay.
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I think you have that backwards, the 16AP4 is much longer than the 16GP4

22 inches vs 17 inches for the GP4
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Oops, I had it backwards. This would be the longer tube. Title edited.
OK, now I am confused. I do know the 16AP4 is the longer CRT with 50-degree deflection and the 16GP4 is the shorter one. Which one is RACS able to build?

Regarding price, I have no idea how to answer that either, so I would go along with other comments here, "my interest depends on the cost". If they could make them at "X" cost, then I would like to know a price that is fair and profitable to the company, and that is for RACS to determine. If it is reasonable to collectors, we will want to make orders. If it is beyond the budgets of most, then there would be no sales anyway because the company would not want to operate at a loss obviously.

The last "new" CRT I bought was a 3KP4 that was made in 1981, by Richardson Electronics if I remember right.
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Old 06-19-2012, 05:46 AM
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I tried to edit the title and it did save, but now I see it will not change? I alerted the mods, maybe something will change later.

This is for a 16AP4. RACS want to know what the community is willing to pay, so they can make a decision. Bouncing the ball back in their court is only likely to drive the price up, and your likelyhood of actually getting one down. So start throwing prices out. If $250 is reasonable, say so. If it's too much, say it's too much. I need a ballpark figure.
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Old 06-19-2012, 07:38 AM
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I almost had Clinton Electronics rebuild a 16GP4 years back, for $350. That
would have included new phosphor & aluminized. "No charge" in event of failure. But then the new owners said "hell no" to metal tubes, plus the price
sky-rocketed on rebuilds.
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