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UPDATE, JUNE 21, 2020

Just learned that the iconic movie Wizard Of Oz was totally restored and upgraded to UHD, HDR, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos sound. The BluRay disc has been available since October, 2019.

We have access to the recently released HBO Max app. This movie is featured and labeled “HD”. Our Sony 385ES projector processed the movie in UHD with HDR10. Watched the movie last night and it was breathtaking. Simply the best version I’ve seen and much better than the 75th anniversary version. Let the following screenshots speak for themselves. The color temperature of the projector is set at D65 and the projector lamp had 2314 hours at the time of this photography. The lamp is rated for 6000 hours. The projector was ISF calibrated to sRGB. The movie in 4:3 format was projected onto a 120 inch Severson no gain, 16:9 screen. Our camera is a Sony A6300, set on tripod. Camera setting: sRGB, FL 29mm, Aperture 5.6 and 6.3, (we used 6.3 when we felt Dorthy’s face was to bright on the LCD camera monitor) SS 1/20, ISO 2000, AWB. The room was dark at night with only one night light. A small amount of ambient light filtered in from adjacent rooms.
This movie was streamed and has a lower bit rate than the BluRay UHD disc which we plan to review shortly.


Link about the restoration. https://postperspective.com/the-wiza...-hdr-remaster/

Video link about the restoration. https://youtu.be/x-6MYP0RxTI

If you don’t want to take the time to open these many phots, you can go here to see them all together. You need to tap/click each photo to see it in full 6000X 4000 resolution. https://visions4netjournal.com/4k-portfolio/

EDIT: When I view these photo links just uploaded to this forum, I see compression. They are not as pristine as my original files. Somehow the uploading process to my site, coping the URL’s, then uploading here causes loss of quality. You will see better quality by downloading from my site.

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Thanks for posting this!

They mention the digital warping/registration of the three negatives. I believe they did that on the previous version, as they did on Robin Hood; but they obviously must have done it over to tighter tolerance for the 4K version.

It was interesting to hear the colorist mention the color breathing problem that technicolor had to some degree and was corrected for this release. I have always noticed it, but don't believe I've heard it mentioned before. I still wonder where it occurred in the process, whether it was reduced later on as the Technicolor film processing equipment was (possibly) improved, etc. It still appears in prints of late 1940s Technicolor films. It seems to be at a rate you would associate with film reel rotational speeds.
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The interesting thing to me is the attempt to be true to the original, but at the same time producing a picture that is technically better in all ways than what theater-goers could experience originally.
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The interesting thing to me is the attempt to be true to the original, but at the same time producing a picture that is technically better in all ways than what theater-goers could experience originally.
I appreciated that. Don’t change it, just make it better. My SS’s can’t capture what I saw watching this version. In some scenes the color tone is just beautiful. I don’t know how to describe it. “Buttery smooth with color depth” I suspect the UHD LD higher bit rate will be even better. In this streamed version, I saw freckles, but not well defined freckles.
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Correction. The projector Reference mode was calibrated to REC. 709 color space and the Cinema Film 1 mode was calibrated to to DCI P3 color space with HDR10 (high dynamic range).

We watched the newly restored movie in DCI P3 color space.
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Correction. The projector Reference mode was calibrated to REC. 709 color space and the Cinema Film 1 mode was calibrated to to DCI P3 color space with HDR10 (high dynamic range).

We watched the newly restored movie in DCI P3 color space.
Aha - thanks, that makes more sense.
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UPDATE, JUNE 23, 2020
Just learned that the iconic movie Wizard Of Oz was totally restored and upgraded to UHD, HDR, Dolby Vision and Dolby DTS 5.1 Master sound. The BluRay disc has been available since October, 2019.

Today we purchased the BluRay disc. The disc came with a digital copy code which we redeemed and first viewed the entire movie on our LG E8 OLED. More about this later.

Next, we loaded the disc into our Sony laser disk player. Our Sony 385ES projector processed the movie in UHD with HDR10 in DCI P3 color space. Watched the movie tonight and it was breathtaking. Simply the best version I’ve seen and much better than the 75th anniversary version. Let the following screenshots speak for themselves. The color temperature of the projector is set at D65 and the projector lamp had 2317 hours at the time of this photography. The lamp is rated for 6000 hours. The projector was ISF calibrated to REC. 709 for the Reference mode and DCI P3 for the Cinema Film 1 mode. We watched this new restored film in DCI P3 color space. The movie in 4:3 format was projected onto a 120 inch Severson no gain, 16:9 screen. Our camera is a Sony A6300, set on tripod. Camera setting: sRGB, FL 24mm, Aperture 5.0, SS 1/25, ISO 800, AWB. The room was dark at night with only one night light. A small amount of ambient light filtered in from adjacent rooms.

The first thing noticed was the increased film grain not noticed in the HBO Max streamed version, (I have deleted all HBO Max screenshots previously shown in this review, two days ago) not objectionable (and more apparent on the OLED screen.) Defiantly more detail and deeper color. We saw the burlap bag on the scarecrows face with more detail and Dorthy’s freckles were more defined. No sign of banding throughout the movie. The soundtrack was okay by today’s standards. Two minutes into the movie, we saw a bit rate of 90 mgbps. We forgot to check if it went higher. Just wish we had more light output from this projector for the HDR profile. The Sony 385ES is rated at 1500 lumen. To approach better HDR, we are looking at $24K plus in the Sony lineup and beyond my budget.

We suggest viewers review these screenshots on a monitor with DCI P3 color space. iPad Pro 2 10.5 and iPad 11 has this color space. They are good on sRGB, better on DCI P3. Tap or click on the photos to download in full 6000X4000 resolution.

Link about the restoration. https://postperspective.com/the-wiza...-hdr-remaster/

Video link about the restoration. https://youtu.be/x-6MYP0RxTI
About the Sony 385ES: https://www.projectorreviews.com/wp-...ny-vw285es.pdf

6000X4000 image screenshots. Download the images to your computer/device. They will look more detailed then when viewing on this forum page.

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Next project is to find an HDMI to analog converter for displaying the movie on the Westinghouse H840CK15 and RCA CTC-7 Worthington.
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Hmmm.... not getting any high res versions when I click on the images??
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Hmmm.... not getting any high res versions when I click on the images??
What OS, browser are you using? You should see something like, save image, copy image download image etc. I’m using Safari. I know it works on Android. Site was tested to work with Microsoft.
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Windows 10 and Chrome.

In 4K Portfolio:

Left cllick does nothing. Right click gives the usual options to save or copy the image or open in a new tab - but it's only 1536x1024
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Windows 10 and Chrome.

In 4K Portfolio:

Left cllick does nothing. Right click gives the usual options to save or copy the image or open in a new tab - but it's only 1536x1024
For example:
https://visions4netjournal.com/wp-co...1536x1024.jpeg
I just verified the file size. Indeed, 1536X1024. Interesting that when I download that same file, it’s 2048X1365. I checked the photo library where all the images are stored and they all are 6000X4000.

I never knew the host server of my site was down sizing the images for display on the individual pages of my site. Now I have to look into that issue.

On Thursday, I will add all the 6000X4000 URL’s to this tread. I didn’t do this today because in the previous posting, the 6000X4000 images did not look full resolution when I checked. No problem to re-up the files.

Added the files. 6000X4000 screenshots. Download the images to your computer/device. They will look more detailed then when viewing on this forum page.

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I just verified the file size. Indeed, 1536X1024. Interesting that when I download that same file, it’s 2048X1365. I checked the photo library where all the images are stored and they all are 6000X4000.

I never knew the host server of my site was down sizing the images for display on the individual pages of my site. Now I have to look into that issue.


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I'd betcha a beer that downsizing issue is why you can't imbed pictures in videokarma posts at native resolution.
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I'd betcha a beer that downsizing issue is why you can't imbed pictures in videokarma posts at native resolution.
I found the problem regarding the down sized images on this page of my site. https://visions4netjournal.com/4k-portfolio/ I’ve been using a “streamlined” upload that allows mass uploads at one time. I didn’t realize they were down rez’ed. To fix the problem, I had to link each image to the original file stored in the photo library in my site. It’s a tedious process and the first 20 photos in my website post are now full size. I’ll finish today.

Regarding this site, if you click on the images just posted as URL’s in my last post, they are definitely severely compressed as displayed on this forum page. I verified that these URL images are now 6000X4000. If you download any one of these files to your computer, it will look much better as it should for a 6000X4000 image. By uploading from my server saves the storage problem I would have by using the VK server. I’d be out of space allotted to me. That might be the problem.

EDIT: All the images can now be downloaded as 6000X4000 from my post at https://visions4netjournal.com/4k-portfolio/ June 23, 2020 update.

Update: See my LG E8 OLED thread to compare screenshots of the Wizard Of Oz UHD Dolby Vision HDR LD on that set. http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=271409
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