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Old 07-07-2004, 12:33 AM
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not quite convex TV

JefHS,

You mentioned an early 60s GE small console that's slightly convex. Here is one I saved from the dump. It's not convex
but does it ever have a fine box.. 0.75 inch stuff that is very
heavy. This old monster was brought up to full voltage very
slowly after a 30 year siesta. Thus the electrolytics are all
doing pretty well. It's main problem is a lo-emission pix bulb.
It's one of the 110 degree variety, and I have not been able to
find a good one short of the rebuilders 300 dollar things. It does have the jumbo heavy oval speaker, and very mechanical remote
control, with the little remote box, and it's original receipt, for an amount close to 600 bucks.
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Old 07-08-2004, 11:07 AM
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What crt is in that GE? Maybe someone has it laying around. I have a 110 degree tube in the attic but its just a stab in the dark. One of these days I need to tackle my "convex" Emerson table model, which is very similiar in design to this S-C. Mine was playing weakly when I last tried it, but needs a good going-through. At first glance there is some nasty stuff, like a bypassed ac interlock and fuse.
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Old 07-08-2004, 11:17 AM
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I believe Stromberg Carlson made some convex (practically round) radio consoles late 30's/ early 40's. So the idea had been a-"round" in their design department for awhile.

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Old 07-08-2004, 01:52 PM
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stubby 21 inch CRT

Bryan,

That GE set is a Model 21C3567.. . It uses a 21ESP4 which is like a 21EMP4 and a 21FAP4. The 21ESP4 seems to be an exclusive GE number. I guess by this time every manufacurer had their own
parts designating system for common parts that were industry standards. Anyway the tube is a 110 degree, small necked thing. Thanks for checking this out.
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:16 PM
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Re: not quite convex TV

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JefHS,

You mentioned an early 60s GE small console that's slightly convex. Here is one I saved from the dump. It's not convex
but does it ever have a fine box.. 0.75 inch stuff that is very
heavy.
It does have the jumbo heavy oval speaker, and very mechanical remote
control, with the little remote box, and it's original receipt, for an amount close to 600 bucks.
I guess "convex" was not quite the word I was after. I seem to remember, however, that GE had a small console in the early sixties with a rounded top; maybe that's what I was thinking of.

Your set looks very good for having been made probably well over four decades ago. I did not realize, however, that this model had a wired remote. The set I'm thinking of, with the rounded top (I could swear I saw at least one of them when I was a kid, as I had relatives near Chattanooga, Tennessee who had one, IIRC) did not have the remote. I wonder...was the wired remote an optional accessory?

And the price--wow! Six hundred bucks for a black-and-white 21" TV in 1962 or thereabouts? Heck, that's close to what some table model and portable color sets sold for in that era (RCA's Cosmos table model had an MSRP of $500 in the late sixties), although the big 25-inch three-way consoles from RCA, Zenith, Magnavox, et al. were closer to a grand ($700-900 was a popular price range for one of these monsters in the '60s).
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Old 07-08-2004, 02:44 PM
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At first glance there is some nasty stuff, like a bypassed ac interlock and fuse.

A bypassed fuse? !!!!!! IMO, it's a miracle that set didn't have very major damage by the time you got it. Any time a person jumps a fuse in anything, he/she is courting trouble at best and disaster at worst.

Many TVs have been seriously and irreparably damaged (and fires started) because of bypassed fuses.The fuse is in the circuit to protect it from shorts and/or current overloads, of course. When it blows, it almost always means there is trouble somewhere in the set. I say "almost" always because, in rare instances, very old fuses will open on their own, for no apparent (to the average person) reason. The problem is often corrosion at the end caps or a very brittle fuse link which opens (crumbles) if there is the slightest amount of vibration near the set.

The AC interlock shouldn't have been bypassed either. That was a safety feature to prevent electric shock when the back was off. I say "was" because modern TVs aren't built that way anymore; the line cord is hard-wired into the power supply, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore since today's TVs are designed to keep unauthorized persons from even removing the back cover for any reason. The average person wouldn't be able to do anything anyhow even if he/she could somehow get the back off, since there are no user-serviceable parts in today's electronic equipment or appliances.
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Old 07-10-2004, 10:01 PM
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