First Transistor TV ?

[anden]

Why would Sony claim it's 8-301W is the Worlds first, I would think the emails would be pouring in to the company to dispute this.

I'm putting an article together on Sony innovation regarding cassette players...TC-100, CF-550, etc. and wanted accurate dates on 'Firsts" by the company. Even notice folks questioning Sony's claim regarding early pocket transistor radios of the mid 50s.

I always thought Sony was particular about their history ?

[Sandy G]

One history I saw had Sony claiming that the 8-301 was the first DIRECT-VIEW transistor TV...And that prolly is true, since the Safari is a "projection" set. Mine sits across the room, on a big 1930s console, & it ASTOUNDS kids to see it "project"-because at that distance, it looks like a normal sized TV. B&W, of course-That's ANOTHER thing that wigs a lot of these kids out-Many of 'em have never seen a B&W set...

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by Sandy G

One history I saw had Sony claiming that the 8-301 was the first DIRECT-VIEW transistor TV...And that prolly is true, since the Safari is a "projection" set.

That's the quote I have seen as well from time to time, and that would be a true statement, not the absolute first, but the first direct view television. Unfortunately that's about the same as saying it was the first transistor television that was painted grey. Who cares about a subtle distinction? Philco got there first. And this fact seems to be conspicuously missing from Sony's web site: http://www.sony.net/Fun/design/histo...0/tv8-301.html

[kx250rider]

Originally Posted by anden

I always thought Sony was particular about their history ?

If this were true, they'd have to disclose that their "innovative" Trinitron color tube was designed & patented by Philco in 1945, as the Apple Tube.

Charles

[ChuckA]

I think this RCA prototype might be a contender for first SS, it does use a CRT. I believe it dates from the mid 50's, not positive. Maybe someone else here may have the story line that went with the picture.


Chuck

[tubesrule]

I haven't seen this RCA one before Chuck, but I remember a magazine cover with a prototype SS set from Motorola. The article made is sound like it was just an engineering exercise and they had no plans to build them. It was also in the mid 50's but I can't remember the magazine. If I come across it I'll post it.

Darryl

[zenith2134]

^Great photo.

My last TV execution was a 1986ish Sylvania Superset 25". Shot it good.

[nasadowsk]

Originally Posted by kx250rider

If this were true, they'd have to disclose that their "innovative" Trinitron color tube was designed & patented by Philco in 1945, as the Apple Tube.

Charles

I thought it was based off the GE POF design of the 50's?

[Eric H]

Originally Posted by ChuckA

I think this RCA prototype might be a contender for first SS, it does use a CRT. I believe it dates from the mid 50's, not positive. Maybe someone else here may have the story line that went with the picture.


Chuck

I had the magazine with the article on this, it was a SS Prototype, I don't remember the year.

If I find it I'll post it.

[Sandy G]

Another thing in the Safari's favor is that they tend to WORK, even after 50 years...The 8-301, OTOH, was known as "Sony's Fragile Baby", apparently they gave a lot of trouble. Mine's at Terry's, I sure do hope he can get it goin'...Prolly just in time to see NTSC sign off forever... Shit, that STILL makes me MAD...

[andy]

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[kx250rider]

Originally Posted by nasadowsk

I thought it was based off the GE POF design of the 50's?

I'd have to defer to Ed R. (Colortel) or one of the seasoned color TV historians, but I'm pretty sure it's closest to the Philco Apple tube. I'll search around and see if I can find any more details.

Originally Posted by Sandy G

Another thing in the Safari's favor is that they tend to WORK, even after 50 years...The 8-301, OTOH, was known as "Sony's Fragile Baby", apparently they gave a lot of trouble. Mine's at Terry's, I sure do hope he can get it goin'...Prolly just in time to see NTSC sign off forever... Shit, that STILL makes me MAD...

I've never had one that "really" worked, but then again, I've never recapped one thoroughly. The 5-303's never work until completely recapped. I've done a couple of those, and they're OK performers but not great.

Charles

[old_tv_nut]

RCA transistorized prototype - March 1953 Popular Mechanix
http://www.bretl.com/tvarticles/pm0353/pm0353.htm

[old_tv_nut]

Trinitron was not close to the apple tube - apple was a single-beam, beam index tube, whereas Trinitron used 3 beams which they stated as having a single gun because some of the electrodes were common to all three beams. Trinitron did have a wire grill shadow mask, as did the Lawrence tube, however, the Lawrene tube actually applied AC color-switching voltage to alternate wires so it could use a single gun, a process of "post deflection color selection."

[etype2]

The Philco Safari is recognized by virtually all collectors and publications throughout the world to be the "first" transistor television.

If you want to argue schematics, then the Casio TV 10, introduced in 1983 was the first full solid state television in production. It used a passive LCD to display a black and white (or in this case, shades of gray) image.


*Edit March 27, 2010 The Seiko TV watch was introduced in summer of 1982. It was in two parts, the watch and a "Walkman" like receiver that received TV and FM. The watch TV display was nematic liquid crystal, 16.8 mm (V) X 25.0mm (H). The watch also had a secondary display above the main for time functions. A cable connected the two and the ear phones acted as the antenna. It could be argued that this device was the first full solid state television in production.