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Old 03-27-2011, 09:01 AM
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you know even a 40$ is prob a "great" offer when you put it into perspective (outside our TV collector view point). If not for a handfull of guys (and gals if you are out there) that can actually do something (other than the alledged repurposing of the cabinet which I would bet rarely ever gets done or is kept very long if it does), these things would cost money just to have someone haul them away. I am sure there are exceptions, and I would have no problem buying from another collector where the working status is well know and therefore the set has more value, but with these kinds of sets (CL buys with unknown status) that are not operating its really just a crap shoot.

Sometimes i wonder if non collectors find this site and get all worked up over our at times rabbid like obsession, and think they are really going to score big.

Of couse what they dont know is A) not all old TV's are created equal, B) like real estate location location location, and C) even we have limits on how many can be save due to size and storage.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:31 PM
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I take your words as I see them...

If you're stating your opinion that there are likely bad parts because of your opinion that the CRT is a replacement, I've interpreted your words exactly as they are written.

I you meant that someone should check it out to ascertain it's condition, would it not have been easier to just say so?

Clarity on the internet is important, we're not talking to each other face to face and often times people can be misunderstood.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:42 PM
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I take your words as I see them...

If you're stating your opinion that there are likely bad parts because of your opinion that the CRT is a replacement, I've interpreted your words exactly as they are written.

I you meant that someone should check it out to ascertain it's condition, would it not have been easier to just say so?

Clarity on the internet is important, we're not talking to each other face to face and often times people can be misunderstood.
Why are u tryin to say I mean things i dont mean? any reasonably well educated pperson that reads what i wrote will support my claims as fair minded with an obvious intention to save the frikk n TV. why write to me as though i wrote something wrong or innappropriate? U really can't understand what i wrote to obviously try to save a good worthwhile set? u can't see i am on the same team as u? perhaps u dont like my words of jest in other posts and dislike me for having a sense of humor above high school level?
could u do me a flavor? give me a break pleeeas!!!!!!! go fix tv's and respect me as i respect u
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:58 PM
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Why are u tryin to say I mean things i dont mean?

I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you what your statements meant to ME. It was my impression that you were saying the set had obviously bad parts in it because of what you perceived as a replacement tube. That may or may not be the case, but my previous statement stands: you can't sit there and say it has other bad parts simply because the CRT has been replaced. There's no basis in fact for that, none of us have seen it.


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any reasonably well educated pperson that reads what i wrote will support my claims as fair minded with an obvious intention to save the frikk n TV.
I never said it should not be saved, I'm simply disagreeing with your assertion that CRT replacements also mean flybacks and other parts must have gone bad. It's simply not true, until proven otherwise.


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u can't see i am on the same team as u? perhaps u dont like my words of jest in other posts and dislike me for having a sense of humor above high school level?

We are all on the same team, what we have here is either a failure to communicate or a misunderstanding. All I'm doing is disagreeing with you, if you don't like it you're free to disagree with me as well.

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could u do me a flavor? give me a break pleeeas!!!!!!! go fix tv's and respect me as i respect u

I'm not bagging on you, it helps to have thicker skin on the net though. After all, you don't even know me so it makes no sense to get mad at a computer screen. The people who do know me (banderson, Mark, Wayne, ect) know that I'm pretty easy going, let's just chill a little bit.
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:02 PM
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:14 PM
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I take it you don't believe 2 people can have a disagreement without also having an arguement, then?


Marty, I didn't know the bezels also changed to match the CRT's. Pretty interesting. If that is so, then it likely does have a replacement tube in it. Funny thing is both my old RCA sets have this sort of beige colored CRT surround, where the 21CYP22 tubes in them are grey or some kinda off-white. Wonder when they started color matching the bezels? Had to be after the CTC-9 series...
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:08 PM
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Okay, I'm going to bring up the CRT in question on this set. When the CTC-Xx series sets were introduced they came from RCA with their new "Hi-Lite" series tube which the safety glass had the blueish tint to it and matched the appearence of the bezel.

The earlier CTC-16 series with the greenish surround on it's bezel had the greenish tint tube that was not a "Hi-Lite" but more along the lines of earlier 21FJP's.

The RCA "Colorama" series rebuilts had the blueish face just like the "Hi-Lites".

Yes, I do believe that this set has some kind of a replacment CRT in it.

Heck, any tube that has no cateract, has vacuum and tests good nowadays is always a keeper! Even if it was some cheap local off brand rebuild!

Parts set or not, someone needs to check it out!
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:19 PM
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I didn't mean to get you guys riled up at each other over a tv neither of you want and both are probably too far away to save.

I saw this set on craigslist and thought someone here might save it that lives in a big old house or has a shop behind their house might save it. I thought I might like an RCA roundie to keep my 29JC20 Zenith company but dammit roundies take up a lot of room and I already have in a single wide mobile home 6 jukeboxes,a1967 Seeburg HSC1 album player(Its like an overgrown console stereo that's a cross between a jukebox and a console stereo holds 50 albums and is 6 feet long to those that never heard of it and don't know what one is)1 large size Magnavox console stereo,1 Zenith roundie console tv,a 1951 RCA b/w console and the 1956 admiral console soon to go to its new home.

If no one wants to save it rather than fighting with each other maybe I should have just kept it to myself. It is a 3 to 4 hour trip 1 way though. I only wish someone in the area would check it out first.

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Old 03-27-2011, 06:28 PM
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I didn't mean to get you gys riled up at each other over a tv neither of you want and both are probably too far away to save.

There's no arguement being had, only a disagreement. Is the community so touchy-feely that we aren't even OK with disagreeing with each other?

I hope the set gets saved just as much as anyone, and I also hope the CRT, yoke and flyback are good!
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:48 PM
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I hope the set gets saved just as much as anyone, and I also hope the CRT, yoke and flyback are good! [/QUOTE]

RIGHT THERE is the MAIN thing ! SOMEBODY needs to save it, one way or another...The supply of Roundies IS finite, the newest ones are 40+ yrs old, we need to try & save as many as we can, so hopefully future generations can enjoy 'em for the technological marvels they are...Imagine having a WORKING Roundie in 2100 or 2150...Due to the efforts of a bunch of "Mad Monks" way back in 2011..
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:16 AM
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There's no arguement being had, only a disagreement. Is the community so touchy-feely that we aren't even OK with disagreeing with each other?

I hope the set gets saved just as much as anyone, and I also hope the CRT, yoke and flyback are good!
i guess i am jus a dingbat. i feel like i am in church being scolded for saying the wrong word and risking being sent to he--
i jus did not want to be misunderstood but if someone says my words somthin other than what they mean seems right to correct
i am not a "right fighter" my best TV friend Dr. Phil taught me no to do that
i sincerely apologize to all for being an idiot of sorts. i never intend disrespect and surely do not want to irratate or hurt feelins ever. now i am gonna cry with morris alberts "feelings" yes i really do think that is a beautiful song but the cry part was in jest

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Old 03-27-2011, 05:50 PM
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OK, guys, let's all back off a notch or 2 here...Yes, the WRITTEN word can, and frequently DOES, get taken the wrong way-'Specially on the Internoot...That's why we ALL have to be a lot more accomodating & give each other the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 03-27-2011, 05:57 PM
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:17 PM
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I like that cabinet style. It's a late 16 or it might even be a CTC-20.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:24 PM
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I decided not to read most of the stuff in this thread! All I can say is, if the crt is good, this is a bargain as a parts set. It may someday reach the point when $100 is the going price for a good CTC-16 flyback.
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