Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-11-2011, 02:25 PM
bandersen's Avatar
bandersen bandersen is offline
RCA 741PCS
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by VintagePC View Post
If that magnifier is too cloudy/yellowish, this might be the first set you have to give an oil change to! Looks like yours is filled with cooking oil from the colour

Usually they're filled with mineral oil. If it's meant to be changed, there should be a drain screw/plug somewhere.
There is a screw plug on the magnifier. I hope that yellowish color is just on the outside surface though - changing the oil sounds veeery messy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerrySmith View Post
I hope you fix that one, it's nice to see the worst condition set restored!

FWIW,the 6AX5GT is the same pinout as a 6X5 and a lot more robust. If your power trans can handle .4a more current it should work fine!
This set calls for a 5U4 and a 5Y3. I found two 5U4s in it

Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseljeep View Post
I looked at the tube location label and it shows a two tube tuner. I never had an Admiral that old. Also, all the power supplies I had, had a 6X5 rect. in the audio supply.
Yes, a 6AG5 RF amp and 6J6 osc. / mixer. Sure looks like it's been replaced though. I wonder what was wrong with the original tuner
__________________
Here are my Vintage Radio & TV YouTube Channel and Photo Gallery
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-11-2011, 04:33 PM
VintagePC's Avatar
VintagePC VintagePC is offline
Tube bug got me 05/2010
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 535
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandersen View Post
There is a screw plug on the magnifier. I hope that yellowish color is just on the outside surface though - changing the oil sounds veeery messy.
Not as messy as with a car - since you can flip the magnifier so the oil doesn't start running out as soon as you open the plug hole. Do it over a sink and keep something handy to wipe up any stray drops, just in case.

Drain in to a container, wipe off with a rag, and grab your new oil and a funnel.

You may want to "rinse" the inside with a small amount of fresh oil 2-3 times to "clean" the insides of the glass. (it washes off the film of old oil that will stay behind.)

Then, fill'er up!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-11-2011, 10:26 AM
Sandy G's Avatar
Sandy G Sandy G is offline
Spiteful Old Cuss
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Rogersville, Tennessee
Posts: 9,571
Always thought those "Flying Buttress" Admirals were kinda "Funky" lookin'....But would I turn one down ? ARE YOU CRAZY IN TH' HEAD ?!? (Grin)
__________________
Benevolent Despot
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-11-2011, 01:17 PM
TerrySmith's Avatar
TerrySmith TerrySmith is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Maryville Tennessee
Posts: 80
I hope you fix that one, it's nice to see the worst condition set restored!

FWIW,the 6AX5GT is the same pinout as a 6X5 and a lot more robust. If your power trans can handle .4a more current it should work fine!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-11-2011, 01:46 PM
Komet's Avatar
Komet Komet is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Varese (Italy)
Posts: 199
Very nice set! It seems on the neck of CRT there are two ion traps, I can not see very well
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 06-11-2011, 02:15 PM
bandersen's Avatar
bandersen bandersen is offline
RCA 741PCS
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Komet View Post
Very nice set! It seems on the neck of CRT there are two ion traps, I can not see very well
Thanks. It's a dual ion trap magnet. The magnets are connected together.
__________________
Here are my Vintage Radio & TV YouTube Channel and Photo Gallery
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-11-2011, 02:26 PM
Komet's Avatar
Komet Komet is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Varese (Italy)
Posts: 199
Oh, I've never seen anything like this before! Are normal on B / W round screen? Can you post a detailed photo? Many thanks in advance
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-11-2011, 04:13 PM
bandersen's Avatar
bandersen bandersen is offline
RCA 741PCS
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Komet View Post
Oh, I've never seen anything like this before! Are normal on B / W round screen? Can you post a detailed photo? Many thanks in advance
Yes, the 10BP4 and 12LP4 CRTs commonly used in early B&W television used dual ion trap magnets. Here's a closeup of a 12LP4 from another set.
Note that it would not normally be that far down on the neck. I loosened it and let it slide down while I worked on the set.

__________________
Here are my Vintage Radio & TV YouTube Channel and Photo Gallery
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-11-2011, 10:21 PM
MelodyMaster's Avatar
MelodyMaster MelodyMaster is offline
78s Galore.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Mississauga, Ont, Canada
Posts: 86
In the late 60's I got a 21" Marconi set with 70' tube, dating I guess from 1959, and someone had already replaced the 6X5 with a then-contemporary solid state plugin unit. I can't remember the brand. For the security of the transformer and the whole set I've got no compunction against using a solid state replacement, such as a Weber, even if I'm trying to keep the set original.

I never knew about the double-magnet ion trap. I have a 10BP4 for which I could never get the beam properly hitting the phosphors. Maybe I was indeed using an insufficient single-magnet beam bender. I still have that tube.

Are you keeping ALL those 30AXX's Bob? I always liked the projecting bevel design.

Last edited by MelodyMaster; 06-11-2011 at 10:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-11-2011, 10:41 PM
bandersen's Avatar
bandersen bandersen is offline
RCA 741PCS
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by MelodyMaster View Post
In the late 60's I got a 21" Marconi set with 70' tube, dating I guess from 1959, and someone had already replaced the 6X5 with a then-contemporary solid state plugin unit. I can't remember the brand. For the security of the transformer and the whole set I've got no compunction against using a solid state replacement, such as a Weber, even if I'm trying to keep the set original.

I never knew about the double-magnet ion trap. I have a 10BP4 for which I could never get the beam properly hitting the phosphors. Maybe I was indeed using an insufficient single-magnet beam bender. I still have that tube.

Are you keeping ALL those 30AXX's Bob? I always liked the projecting bevel design.
You definitely need a dual ion trap magnet to 10BP4s. Check out the data sheet - "Ion trap maget....External, Double Field Type'

I'm going to keep them all long enough to restore and enjoy them for a while. Eventually, I probably will try to sell some off.
__________________
Here are my Vintage Radio & TV YouTube Channel and Photo Gallery
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #11  
Old 06-11-2011, 11:27 PM
MelodyMaster's Avatar
MelodyMaster MelodyMaster is offline
78s Galore.
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Mississauga, Ont, Canada
Posts: 86
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandersen View Post
You definitely need a dual ion trap magnet to 10BP4s. Check out the data sheet - "Ion trap maget....External, Double Field Type'.
Huh, How 'bout dat.. I don't recall such an ion trap being on any of the sets with an original 10BP4.. actually the Phillips had an ion trap 10BP4 and it worked well... I'll rummage through the boxes of TV junk I saved. Important information can slip by. .. I've always loved trains, especially the unique, yet it wasn't until just a couple of years ago that I even knew of the existence of the most interesting of all railroads, the Wuppertal Schwebebahn. So it goes... Another collection I have is literally 100's of TV knobs from the 1950s, dating from the time in the sixties that I was a teenage TV repairman.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bandersen View Post
I'm going to keep them all long enough to restore and enjoy them for a while. Eventually, I probably will try to sell some off.
Of course, that's the whole point of a hobby.... :-) But remember me... Darn I HAVE to get to Hilliard one of these years!

Last edited by MelodyMaster; 06-11-2011 at 11:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-12-2011, 11:08 AM
Reece's Avatar
Reece Reece is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cleona, PA
Posts: 2,178
Wow, another Admiral for the herd! Better hope that bug-eye doesn't leak! If you need more decals down the road, I've still got the masters.
__________________
Reece

Perfection is hard to reach with a screwdriver.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-12-2011, 03:57 PM
bandersen's Avatar
bandersen bandersen is offline
RCA 741PCS
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,823
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece View Post
Wow, another Admiral for the herd! Better hope that bug-eye doesn't leak! If you need more decals down the road, I've still got the masters.
Thanks, I'll let you know.

I read the Sams for the 30A1 chassis and discovered that the 'S' suffix in the model number means it used the 94C8-2 turret tuner rather than the earlier A1528 wafer switch tuner with channel 1.
__________________
Here are my Vintage Radio & TV YouTube Channel and Photo Gallery
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-19-2011, 08:53 PM
cchaven's Avatar
cchaven cchaven is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Roanoke, VA
Posts: 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece View Post
Wow, another Admiral for the herd! Better hope that bug-eye doesn't leak! If you need more decals down the road, I've still got the masters.
I have a 1948 30A14, with channel 1, who's decals are horribly faded. Would you be able to provide a set of these?

Thanks
Jeff
__________________
Sometimes you get more done on the simple machines. There's no complexity to slow you down and they're always ready to go.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-12-2011, 04:34 PM
ChrisW6ATV's Avatar
ChrisW6ATV ChrisW6ATV is offline
Another CT-100 lives!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hayward, Cal. USA
Posts: 3,552
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandersen View Post
I have all the knobs except the channel changer.
I've seen some photos of early sets where it looked just like the others - no tail. I do have some extras like that so I'll use one for now. The knobs with a tail are a real pain to find.
Bob-

I found a knob with the tail for you. Send me a PM with your address and I will send it to you.
__________________
Chris

Quote from another forum: "(Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did."
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.