A bazillion questions about crt rebuilds....

[charliesheen]

i was trying to find out info on the rebuild mentioned above and came across this link,it might help with ideas for shipping

charlie

http://home.att.net/~pldexnis/potpou...P22carton.html

[ha1156w]

Another trick I've seen used is to put a trash bag in the box and fill it with expanding foam. Makes a form-fitting cushion that keeps the object stationary. We used to get refurb'd monitors that way, one bag in the bottom, fill it a couple of inches and let it dry, then add the monitor face down and fill around it. Add another bag on top and fill it to stabalize the upper half. It's the motion of the contents that make the most damage ..... well, except for crushing of the box in the first place.

[Pete Deksnis]

...love that 'flatlander' animation! LOL

[blue_lateral]

Thank you everyone!!

While looking for boxes and packing materials yesterday, I found someone who says he can pack it. I haven't taken out the tube yet because the sams arrived yesterday from bgadow (thanks Bryan), and I wanted to look at some voltages before I tear it apart. I intend to nitpick the chassis for drifted resistors and the like while the tube is away, and get parts ordered.

With any luck, I can get the tube out by this weekend. I'll go down there Monday armed with all the above graphics, and the tube. I've got a good feeling about this now. I think we can get it there in one piece.

He wants to ship it on DHL. I might do that, or stick it on a bus.

I'll keep everyone posted, and again many thanks.

John

I've done some research and it seems that overall FedWrex is the cheapest for larger packages....UPS, DHL, and the post orifice really rape you when it comes to oversize packages. Having said that, I'm not familiar with the Greyhound rates so you should check them against FedEx. Good luck!

Anthony

[bgadow]

I sent a crt via DHL, coast to coast for less than Greyhound & only a few days. But it was smaller than this so may not have been subject to an oversize penalty.

[David Roper]

Honk! Honk! The shoe-tree has shronk!

Shoe-tree? I thought the honking was from Wobbles the Goose(NLRH)

Anthony (lets see how sharp y'all are to finger out that reference!)

[bgadow]

Ha! Didn't think any of ya guys would ever guess!

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I took the tube out of the Silvertone today, and hauled it down to the guy who is going to pack it, along with all the graphics above. It should be packed by tomorrow afternoon. I think he's gonna do something like the 15gp22 one, add also double box it. The tube weighed a lot less than I expected (easy to lift).


I tested a bunch of the small tubes tonight, most were bad. Most tubes in the sweep, HV, and color matrix tested good. Almost everything else was weak. Even my brand new horizontal oscillator tube tested on the low end of good. Hmm... it might be time for a tube tester race.....

jc

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I talked to Scotty today, and my tube has arrived at Hawkeye - in one piece!



I shipped it Greyhound Package Express. I guess it is possible to ship something like this across the country.

I'll keep everyone posted,

John

[Dave S]

Originally Posted by heathkit tv

I've done some research and it seems that overall FedWrex is the cheapest for larger packages....

Anthony, that's probably true, but I had an interesting (and unsettling) conversation about shipping with Chuck Pharis the other day. If I'm remembering the details correctly, he said that recently Fedex was happy to take his money to insure a shipment, but refused to pay after destroying it. They didn't disagree that they damaged it, only that they weren't obligated to pay since it was "irreplacable". (Seems to me that whether or not an item is irreplacable, if an accurate value can be defined, as would be the case in shipping a documented purchase, why would it matter whether or not the item can be replaced? The financial loss is the same whether you can get another one or not.) To pour salt in the wound, I believe he said that although they refunded the shipping charge, they refused to refund the insurance fee they had charged for the coverage they were not providing.

I researched the Fedex website and found only one small reference to this, an exclusion of coverage for "The shipment of fluorescent tubes, neon lighting, neon signs, X-ray tubes, laser tubes, light bulbs, quartz crystal, quartz lamps, glass tubes such as those used for specimens, and glass containers such as those used in laboratory test environments. " I couldn't find any reference anywhere to excluding coverage for items that were irreplacable. I had been previously advised that the Post Office is the only carrier that will knowingly accept glass items such as picture tubes for shipment. I hadn't considered the Greyhound option. Sounds like the safest bet to me.

Perhaps Chuck can weigh in on this with an accurate, first-person account. I had NEVER heard this particular flavor of horror story before and I'm flabbergasted (I love it when I get to use that word!) that they may be continuing to take our money with the knowledge that they will never be forced to provide the service we're paying for.

That having been said, I've shipped dozens and dozens of fragile items including picture tubes by all the major carriers and have had only one item damaged in transit (and that happened to be something made of thick steel!!!) but I am a rabid packer and have had some people "complain" that it took them longer to get the item out of the box than it did to install it in their car/TV/whatever. Double boxing is a pain in the butt, but it's the easiest way to protect against nearly any "permissable" mishandling. Building a wooden crate out of scrap lumber and drywall screws takes quite a bit of time but doesn't cost much and is nearly bulletproof.

My current pet peeve is people who seem to work hard to find a box just barely exactly large enough to hold the radio or whatever that they're shipping and snug it in there with absolutely no cushioning whatsoever. I've received several items this way in the past year, surprisingly only about half of them were damaged.

Perhaps this subject has been covered in earlier threads. If not, are there any attorneys, shipping professionals or Fedex employees in the group who would care to comment on how we can keep from losing both our treasures and our money in the event of a problem?

--Dave

I think part of the problem is that the clerk who accepts your package (and added insurance) is not aware of the specifics of what's covered or not.....and to explain all the exemptions is problematic in a rushed business environment. I'm not excusing them, just trying to understand what's happening in a real world situation.

For them to have coverage exclusions they MUST inform you of them BEFORE you accept their terms.....just like it's your responsibility to read the fine print of a contract.....but in this case they're not even SHOWING you the contract so I feel they shot themselves in the foot regardless of their boilerplate because you weren't privy to the exclusions or regulations until after you put in a claim. Bottom line, they owe you for the damage regardless of them denying it because they never told you the terms. Take it before a jury and see what happens! :-)

Anthony

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and in one piece!


All the way to Iowa and back on Greyhound. Actually, I'ts been sitting in the bus station for a week. Apparently Greyhound left messages for me at work, but I never got them. I went down there on my lunch hour to advise them I had another package coming, and both of them were sitting there.

Today I got to see how it was packed. Hawkeye used the same packaging to return it. It was double boxed, with inch-thick styrofoam strips between the inner and outer box. I also think it was crammed with peanuts between the foam strips on the way out, but not on the way back.

When I got the inner box open, heres what I saw...

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Actually, there were some styrofoam strips there also, holding that grid thing tight. Underneath the grid was one of these..