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Old 10-01-2008, 12:31 AM
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The good news is that once purity and convergence are set, you do not have to adjust it anymore. Unless you make a major move with the set, and even then it will be minimal, and you will have no problem making the adjustment. Even if a componant fails, once you replace it convergence will only need touch up. The real fun comes when you have to replace the crt. Then you get to take all those componants off the neck of the old tube and reinstall them on the new one. That is when all those adjustments get really out of whack, because the tube is different and the componants are located in slightly different positions. That is why the labor was so high on a color picture tube replacement, and a lot of people just bought new sets and junked their old one.

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Old 10-01-2008, 01:46 AM
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Yeah but that's the real challenge! I did that last year on a Magnavox. PITA but after its all done it's a pleasure to watch and know you did it...
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:16 AM
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Only 1 photo, I will take more this evening. I didn't do a very good job on this one...

From Odd Couple DVD, Season 4.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:49 AM
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Looks like you did quite well actually, It most likely looks sharper in person. Sometimes it shows up a little blurry in my pics too. Good job man! Once you get the hang of these sets, they are a helluva fun hobby. I think you'll learn fast, I've only been working on color sets for about two years as far as full restorations go. It will amaze you how fast you can learn.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:45 PM
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I have some experience with older B&W sets (40's and 50's) but this is my first color set. Exponentially more difficult to set-up. The end result turned out well, but without the help of this board I would have been S.O.L.

Reminds me, I should probably take a look at the two old B&W RCA's I have in storage. I can't remember what level of functionality (if any) they currently have...
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
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OK, added 2 more photos. In the second you will not only see that the colors on the Hawaii 5-0 graphic are pretty good, you'll see the lovely remnants of copy protection in the upper left corner. What the hell do I do about that? It was never a problem on my B&W sets but I'd say about 40% of my DVDs have this problem on the Admiral. Really pisses me off...
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:14 PM
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I have tried a few different inline jobs and they all never quite worked right. the best way is to copy the dvd's. But that costs money unless you do not buy the original but borrow/rent/or check it out at your library and copy those. So what did copy protection accomplish? The exact opposite of what they wanted. I'm surprised there was never a class action lawsuit over people buying video tapes and then not being able to watch them on their tv. My parents tv is fairly new and it hates tapes with copy protection. It does ok on dvds though.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:54 PM
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I have tried a few different inline jobs and they all never quite worked right. the best way is to copy the dvd's. But that costs money unless you do not buy the original but borrow/rent/or check it out at your library and copy those. So what did copy protection accomplish? The exact opposite of what they wanted. I'm surprised there was never a class action lawsuit over people buying video tapes and then not being able to watch them on their tv. My parents tv is fairly new and it hates tapes with copy protection. It does ok on dvds though.
Does that suck or what? I pay $50 bucks for a legitimate version and I'd have to make a copy so it plays correctly. That just seems so wrong.

I wonder if it would play better on another DVD player or if its the TV? I didn't have that problem on a 1955 B&W RCA I was using before this.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:28 PM
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I think I remember reading somewhere on here, a long time ago, that someone used an el cheapo wal-mart special VCR as an RF modulator and it done away with the copy protection artifacts on the screen. Finding one of those types of VCR's should not be difficult. One trip to the local dump would porbably yield quite a few.

I guess the only advantage to copying new DVD's would be that you can play the copy and put the original away for safe keeping.

BTW, that's a very nice Admiral you've got! Those old TV's sure do look good when working right, don't they?
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:46 PM
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