1961 NBC "Tinted" Color Programming?

[holmesuser01]

I have a 35mm TV show episode that she guested on in 1960. They played her up as a knockout beauty there, too.

[Eric H]

Originally Posted by etype2

My parents did not own a color TV. My first color set was purchased out of high school in fall of 1965, coinciding with the 65/66 season when the three networks went 100% color in prime time. I do remember seeing some very early episodes of "Superman" in the faux color.

If you are referring to the 1950's "The Adventures of Superman" they were shot in actual color from 55-58, the earlier seasons were B&W.

I have the DVD sets and the Color episodes do have a colorized look to them, I suspect because the negatives have faded over time.

[Sandy G]

...Yeah, as if somebody as dorky as Don Defore could have EVER scored an Uberbabe like Whitney Blake in real life...He'd had trouble even landin' a "Hazel"...(grin)

[Leslie]

Originally Posted by holmesuser01

I have a 35mm TV show episode that she guested on in 1960. They played her up as a knockout beauty there, too.

Could that 1960 35mm episode possibly be "Pete's Personality Change" from the old CBS series "Pete and Gladys"? I have that episode on a custom-made 18 episode DVD set from that series that I purchased on ioffer 4 years ago. Whitney Blake was as gorgeous on that show as she was on Hazel. The gag was that Pete (Harry Morgan) had to see a psychiatrist to find out why his sales were down. (He sold insurance). The psychiatrist's name was Agatha Henderson, and Pete didn't want to be analyzed by an old battle-axe in bloomers and then in walks Whitney! LOL.

[holmesuser01]

Originally Posted by Leslie

Could that 1960 35mm episode possibly be "Pete's Personality Change" from the old CBS series "Pete and Gladys"? I have that episode on a custom-made 18 episode DVD set from that series that I purchased on ioffer 4 years ago. Whitney Blake was as gorgeous on that show as she was on Hazel. The gag was that Pete (Harry Morgan) had to see a psychiatrist to find out why his sales were down. (He sold insurance). The psychiatrist's name was Agatha Henderson, and Pete didn't want to be analyzed by an old battle-axe in bloomers and then in walks Whitney! LOL.

You win the prize, Leslie! I was a major fan of the old December Bride TV series with neighbors Pete Porter, and his unseen wife, Gladys. When the spin-off series debuted, we got to see Cara Williams as Gladys, a perfectly likeable person, unlike her unseen hilarious charactor on Dec. Bride.

My P&G shows are beautiful. Unfortunately, none have commercials.

[Leslie]

Originally Posted by holmesuser01

You win the prize, Leslie! I was a major fan of the old December Bride TV series with neighbors Pete Porter, and his unseen wife, Gladys. When the spin-off series debuted, we got to see Cara Williams as Gladys, a perfectly likeable person, unlike her unseen hilarious charactor on Dec. Bride.

My P&G shows are beautiful. Unfortunately, none have commercials.

I remember watching "Pete and Gladys" at my Grandma's house on Monday nights. I always liked the show, but after the morning reruns on CBS ended in 1964, the show was not seen in Chicago again, except for a very brief run on CBS in April, 1967 during an AFTRA strike. Some of the shows in my DVD have original commercials and sponsor bumpers. Perhaps the best ones are the "integrated" spots for Carnation Milk. Carnation was the main sponsor every other week, and the main commercial came at the end of the show, with Cara Williams and Harry Morgan, and the spot was written as to tie in with the story just presented, like a "tag" scene from the evening's story. I loved December Bride too, it's a shame that these shows are just locked away in Paramount's vault(with the exception of your 35mm copies!). I think people would enjoy seeing a funny show that hasn't been run to death.

[holmesuser01]

I was told years ago that December Bride is tangled up in copyright issues. Parke Levy created it, Desi Arnaz produced and filmed it for Desilu, and CBS owned the shows.

My 35mm's were from the daytime runs, with cut footage wound onto the end of the reel. Of course, I put the footage back where it was supposed to go!! The daytime version was cut by one minute for more commercial time.

[Steve Hoffman]

I was home from school sick (strep throat) and watching "Pete and Gladys" on my parents portable Zenith in their bedroom on the Friday morning of Nov. 22, 1963 when the "Bulletin" from CBS News came on about the assassination of JFK. I'll never forget that.. The East Coast got The Edge Of Night or whatever it was but us West Coast folk got "Pete and Gladys" forever impacted in our memories along with the death of the President. A very weird combination..

[Leslie]

Originally Posted by holmesuser01

I was told years ago that December Bride is tangled up in copyright issues. Parke Levy created it, Desi Arnaz produced and filmed it for Desilu, and CBS owned the shows.

My 35mm's were from the daytime runs, with cut footage wound onto the end of the reel. Of course, I put the footage back where it was supposed to go!! The daytime version was cut by one minute for more commercial time.

Those 35mm prints must look awesome! The prints used for my DVD are taken from 16mm and show some occasional signs of age (jumping due to broken sprocket holes and such), but this does not impair my enjoyment of the show. The DVD also came with 2 "bonus" episodes of December Bride. The gentlemen who sold me the set used to post many old and obscure series, but has been inactive on ioffer for several years now. I posted on SitcomsOnLine that I had done a copyright search on P&G, and I was informed that due to new copyright laws, P&G wouldn't be completely out of copyright until 2057! At which time I would be 105!

[Leslie]

Originally Posted by Steve Hoffman

I was home from school sick (strep throat) and watching "Pete and Gladys" on my parents portable Zenith in their bedroom on the Friday morning of Nov. 22, 1963 when the "Bulletin" from CBS News came on about the assassination of JFK. I'll never forget that.. The East Coast got The Edge Of Night or whatever it was but us West Coast folk got "Pete and Gladys" forever impacted in our memories along with the death of the President. A very weird combination..

I was in school on that fateful day and we were dismissed for the day after the news broke. I was supposed to go to confirmation class for the Episcopal Church that afternoon, But Father Gracia cancelled that as well. It's funny that all people's memories of that day are imperishable. I remember it so clearly. When I got home I remember my Mother and our neighbor Carol O'Dea sitting in silence watching the events unfold on our set.

[holmesuser01]

I've got alot of stuff on 16mm and 35mm. I dont run anything on any projector until it has been checked, and inspected. There's no reason that your P&G copies should be jumping, other than the seller not checking his prints.

In the case of a 35mm print, alot of footage can be damaged FAST. 35 runs at 90 FEET per minute!

[Leslie]

Originally Posted by holmesuser01

I've got alot of stuff on 16mm and 35mm. I dont run anything on any projector until it has been checked, and inspected. There's no reason that your P&G copies should be jumping, other than the seller not checking his prints.

In the case of a 35mm print, alot of footage can be damaged FAST. 35 runs at 90 FEET per minute!

These 16mm prints were transferred to DVD via VHS tape an undetermined number of years ago. I have no idea where or when the seller got his copies, but they do look light years better than some bootlegs I've seen of, say, "Our Miss Brooks", which have been taken from 80's VHS tapes of Channel 50 (Chicago) broadcasts which have snippets of old commercials, Channel 50 voice-overs during the credits, and a picture almost completely washed out in white. "Miss Brooks" is another great old sitcom which seems to be tied up as regard to the rights, although I have a public-domain disc containing 3 episodes which must have slipped through the cracks of pretty good quality.

[holmesuser01]

Back to the original topic:

Republic Pictures used to own BONANZA before the Paramount takeover. They pulled the original camera negatives from cold storage and made new print negatives from them. Thats why Bonanza looks so good today. Bonanza was shot on Eastman film, and the processing was done by Consolidated Film Industries (CFI) Some have claimed that it was shot in Technicolor, but it was not. Never.

The show, Walt Disney's Wonderful World Of Color was shot in Technicolor, and thats why they seemed to POP on the screen. I've seen a couple of Technicolor prints of the shows, and they are stunning, after all these years. Eastman stuff before 1983 simply fades to pink over time.

[etype2]

Originally Posted by Eric H

If you are referring to the 1950's "The Adventures of Superman" they were shot in actual color from 55-58, the earlier seasons were B&W.

I have the DVD sets and the Color episodes do have a colorized look to them, I suspect because the negatives have faded over time.

Okay. Yes the Superman episodes I was referring to had that colorized look, kinda like Shirley Temple colorized films, only I saw these in the late 50's on friends color sets. (It may have been in early 60's, looked like only two colors, faded red and blue.)

[holmesuser01]

Yes, Superman had at least 3 seasons of color episodes. We had a library of film prints when I worked in TV eons ago.