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Old 04-18-2014, 07:40 PM
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This TV not only has AM-FM simulcast on the AM-FM tuner; it has a decoder for stereo FM as well. Look at the function selector. There is a position plainly marked "FM Stereo." There is a possibility that position is just a switch for an optional FM multiplex decoder which plugs into the chassis, but if the console was made after 1961, the radio is more than likely factory equipped for reception of the then-new stereo FM stations, if the owner's area had them. My best guess is that most of the time, the radio stayed on AM since FM was relatively new in the '60s, with few mono, let alone stereo, stations to be found unless the owner was in or very near a large metropolitan area.
The components that were removed have a code date of late 1960.
The radio has only eight tubes in it. It probably has provisions for an add-on MPX adaptor.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:32 PM
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A nice set, one of the nicer Emersons. And that superb Glaser-Steers record changer and the HiFi icing on the cake.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:56 PM
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Oooops! I goofed. Upon close examination of the thumbnail of the front panel, I saw that the "stereo" position of the function selector is not for stereo FM; it is, rather, one position of the stereo-mono switch for the phonograph, the "mono" position being right below it, looking at the function switch from the front.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:35 PM
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Thanks guys, very cool learning about the simulcast tuner!
I will have to check out tuning in both AM and FM at the same time...
I would have never known about it.
So-called "AM-FM stereo" was a very crude attempt at reproducing stereo sound on radio. The AM station carried the left channel of the program, while the FM station carried the right channel of the same program. I never heard the system in operation (by the time I was old enough to care about it, the present-day stereo-multiplex FM system had superseded the AM-FM one), but I can imagine it probably had its share of problems, one of which being that, if you were not within listening range of both the AM and FM stations, the stereo effect would be ruined. The stereo multiplex system in use today is much better, but you still must be within listening range (normally not more than 30 miles) of the station to get decent stereo separation.

About the only thing you will get today if you try to tune in both AM and FM simultaneously on your console's radio tuner in "AM-FM" mode will be separate programs on both bands, even from AM and FM stations operated by the same media group or broadcasting company.

I'd keep that console, however, since it is a collectors' item by virtue of the AM-FM stereo capability of the radio tuner. There probably aren't many of those left, as they were probably scrapped when the TV went bad (bad flyback, CRT, etc.) and the owner got a true hi-fi system and separate TV, probably a small portable.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:21 AM
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In Chicago WBBM simulcasts it's AM news broadcasts on FM...Though you would probably just hear two channel mono(and it's news so even if it was somehow stereo it probably would not improve the experience any).

The nice part of simulcast tuners is that the AM sections tend to be over engineered to produce HiFi AM that better matches the audio capability of FM. The result is that if you have an AM music station that strives for HiFi audio quality in their signal your set will likely better reproduce it than any other tuner that you might own.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:34 PM
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While waiting for some capacitors, I decided to go ahead and strip down the cabinet.

I was happy to see this was solid wood & veneer!
It wasn't in bad shape when I got it, but had significant scratches on the top, and inside the record changer and tuner areas... Looks like new now...

I used Zipstripp with a sharp paint scraper, then steel wool with the same,
then sanded down with 100, 120, and 150 grit.
I re-stained the cabinet with Red Mahogany.
Tomorrow, I think I'll use boiled linseed oil on top of the stain,
it will give this a vintage hand rubbed finish, which is what most of these had I believe...
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:21 PM
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Finished the recapping of the TV chassis today, and got both the chassis and CRT back in the cabinet...

I sprayed some Slip Plate on the CRT where the old tags were...
this always happens when I redo a set, and I have often wondered if the small amounts of Aquadag that come off with the old CRT labels will affect the CRT at all?

The picture and sound are good now, and the longer it runs, the nicer it is looking! I only ran it for about a half hour tonight, but here is the result so far...
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:06 PM
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Got the amplifier back in today, turned it on, and the sound was great, besides some hum and scratchy pots...Fortunately, the pots were at the right angle inside the cabinet to allow me to spray in some Deoxit, now it sounds perfect! Very full sound, lots of nice bass, with just the right highs.

I got rid of the old 4 MFD speaker crossover caps, one measured almost 6...
I had some polyester 2uf 100v's, which I doubled up for each speaker set. They will need to break in for a bit, but sound great already!

Both AM and FM stations do play at the same time, one on each channel, which was mentioned in earlier posts, thanks again everyone for pointing that out-
There are neat dual pilot lamps for the radio, one for AM, and one for FM, with an additional pilot lamp at the bottom of the cabinet that shows through a nice red jeweled lens on the speaker grill.

The picture on the set is very nice, but the bottom of the picture is shrunk a bit; at first I thought it was the vertical tube, but it measured strong with no shorts.
The centering didn't make a difference when I tried adjusting it, only for the top of the picture, and there is no vertical height, or linearity adjustment, so I'm not quite sure what could get rid of it...
(The photo I took makes the picture look washed out, but it's not, I had to brighten the photo to show the shrinkage.)
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:12 PM
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Its great to see an Emerson come out like this, a combo no less.
You did a fine job on the refinish!

Emerson is like Westinghouse's equally unusual cousin.

BTW- Pull off the vertical hold and brightness knobs, the vertical height and Linearity are accessed using a small flat blade through the hollow shafts.
If the vertical is till flaky, there are 3 or 4 resistors in the megohm range off the hgt and lin pots. Also a 10 mf cap off pin 8 of the 6AW8 video amp tube.
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Old 04-26-2014, 03:42 PM
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Hey that's a nice tv/stereo !
I like Emerson stuff, be interested in seeing more pictures as you get into
the restoration......

Good luck !
Yes old Emerson stuffs is good but the recent models , not at all..
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Old 04-26-2014, 07:04 PM
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That last pic showing the top of the TV with the radio controls suggests a really beautiful job on that cabinet! How about some good glamour shots showing off the cabinet?
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:29 PM
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Its great to see an Emerson come out like this, a combo no less.
You did a fine job on the refinish!

Emerson is like Westinghouse's equally unusual cousin.

BTW- Pull off the vertical hold and brightness knobs, the vertical height and Linearity are accessed using a small flat blade through the hollow shafts.
If the vertical is till flaky, there are 3 or 4 resistors in the megohm range off the hgt and lin pots. Also a 10 mf cap off pin 8 of the 6AW8 video amp tube.
Thanks for the compliment,
and especially thanks a million for all the tips on fixing the vertical!!
I am going to try tomorrow, and will post how it comes out...
I could never even begin to repair any of these sets without the help of such knowledgeable Television repair artists!
Thanks again!
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:15 AM
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That last pic showing the top of the TV with the radio controls suggests a really beautiful job on that cabinet! How about some good glamour shots showing off the cabinet?
Thanks!
Just waiting for the top lids to be stained, then I will show some better pics.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:28 AM
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Pull off the vertical hold and brightness knobs, the vertical height and Linearity are accessed using a small flat blade through the hollow shafts.
Dave, that did it...
I adjusted the vertical height and linearity located behind the vertical and brightness knobs like you mentioned. I didn't have to turn them too much, and it pulled the screen down just enough.
It's a bit of an art coming up with a fine balance of the height, linearity, and centering rings to make the picture just right.
Thanks again for letting me know!

Now, there are only a few thin white lines going up on an angle across the screen at the bottom of the picture, not sure what that's from...
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:51 PM
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Well, even though I was able to get the picture back to normal with the vert. Lin and Height controls, after about an hour it started to shrink at the bottom again.
I was going to test some resistors and caps, so I took out all the tubes, except three that are shielded, since the metal shields are soldered in place...

This may be a dumb question, but does anyone know how I can get these tubes out without unsoldering the shields??
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