Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early B&W and Projection TV

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-12-2012, 12:33 AM
Phil Nelson's Avatar
Phil Nelson Phil Nelson is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,030
It's sweeping the whole screen, but I don't consider the vertical fixed. It's not very stable, and when the sync is far off, it occasionally blinks to a horizontal line as if something (a shorted turn in the output transformer?) was arcing.

By clipping another cap in parallel with C16 (raising its value a bit), I can reduce the height to nearly fit the whole image on the screen, but still with poor linearity.

The best compromise between height & linearity doesn't seem too awful at first:



Until you look at a pattern:



I could live with that degree of non-linearity, but the instability really ain't acceptable. I'll keep pokin' around.

Phil Nelson
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-13-2012, 11:16 PM
ChrisW6ATV's Avatar
ChrisW6ATV ChrisW6ATV is offline
Another CT-100 lives!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hayward, Cal. USA
Posts: 3,552
I am happy to hear that the "non-logical" vertical problem had a non-logical cause (the wrong value part); it can happen to any of us. Now you need to re-check the rest of that area because your vertical should definitely have better linearity than in your B&K picture.
__________________
Chris

Quote from another forum: "(Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did."
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-14-2012, 01:26 AM
Phil Nelson's Avatar
Phil Nelson Phil Nelson is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,030
Yes, in further puttering, I returned R55 and C44 (Sams numbers) back to the values given in the Philco docs. I had tried different values for them at various times, including an alternate Sams value. I also swapped amongst my three 6DR7 tubes until I found which one my set likes best. Linearity and vertical lock are both improved.





Then I ran through the horizontal & audio alignment procedures and played the set for a few hours. Nice and stable.

Those pics are from a DVD player, which has a strong signal and tends to swamp some sets. When I switched to the built-in rod antenna, it worked very nicely, receiving the relatively weak signal from my Blonder Tongue modulator on the opposite side of the house.

Not perfect, but I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Phil Nelson
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-14-2012, 02:56 AM
ChrisW6ATV's Avatar
ChrisW6ATV ChrisW6ATV is offline
Another CT-100 lives!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hayward, Cal. USA
Posts: 3,552
Excellent progress!
__________________
Chris

Quote from another forum: "(Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-18-2012, 03:44 PM
Phil Nelson's Avatar
Phil Nelson Phil Nelson is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,030
After a few more tweaks, I'm declaring this one finished.



Part of the difficulty I had with vertical linearity is that someone had adjusted the vertical centering as far off as it could go (perhaps to compensate for some aging component in the past). With that back in a sensible range, it was a piece of cake to make the vertical correct using the other controls. I always feel better when controls are somewhere in the middlin' range rather than maxed out.

There's an article, too:

http://antiqueradio.org/PhilcoH3412L...Television.htm

In researching, I found Philco's original patent drawing for the tabletop cabinet:



Interesting that the original concept had more knobs on the front, and a slanted control panel.

On to the next project! Thanks again for the advice.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

P.S. I'm missing an end cap for one of the support arms. If anyone has a spare, contact me at http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm .

Last edited by Phil Nelson; 06-18-2012 at 03:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 06-19-2012, 02:09 AM
ChrisW6ATV's Avatar
ChrisW6ATV ChrisW6ATV is offline
Another CT-100 lives!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hayward, Cal. USA
Posts: 3,552
Nice job, Phil.
__________________
Chris

Quote from another forum: "(Antique TV collecting) always seemed to me to be a fringe hobby that only weirdos did."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-19-2012, 12:01 PM
old_coot88 old_coot88 is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,651
And so concludes another neat resto adventure and accompanying write-up. Great job, Phil (as per usual).
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-19-2012, 12:41 PM
IsthmusTV's Avatar
IsthmusTV IsthmusTV is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 329
Thanks, Phil for the invaluable contributions you make to the vintage TV/radio community. Now, if I ever trap a Predicta in the wild I'll know what I'm getting into

-Clark
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:51 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.