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Phil Nelson 04-04-2017 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic M (Post 3181881)
find a sturdy box or some such

Like a picnic cooler:

http://antiqueradio.org/art/RCACTC-4LameSetup.jpg

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

Tom9589 04-04-2017 07:19 PM

And the best part is that you can keep your beer cold in the cooler while you work!

kvflyer 04-05-2017 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom9589 (Post 3181961)
And the best part is that you can keep your beer cold in the cooler while you work!

But it will be tough to get at...

SwizzyMan 04-05-2017 04:44 PM

I do the same thing, but I use a sturdy stool instead of a cooler. Makes everything so much easier for sure!

SwizzyMan 04-11-2017 05:32 PM

I replaced the CRT with a 21FB that is a bit stronger. It displays a beautiful picture with all colors strong except for red which is weak. This has do to a problem with the circuitry driving the red cathode. I have been tracing back through the circuit and have been finding resistors that have gone off. I think I will tackle this problem before I continue on the color sync issue.

SwizzyMan 05-09-2017 07:42 PM

Im starting to really think the replacement crystal may be bad since it does have a big dent in the side of it (Must have occurred during shipping) and I cant seem to get the color to lock no matter what I do. With the last crystal I could get the color to lock I believe. I will swap the crystal once I can find one. Work has been slow this whole year and I admit I have been lazy with the restoration of this set and have not worked on it as much as I should have. Summer is coming up soon so I hope to have the set finished by August. Slowly but surely this set is shaping up!

Phil Nelson 05-10-2017 12:38 AM

Sounds like you're nearing the finish line!

If you have a signal generator and scope, you can do a bench test of the crystal. In my CTC-4 article, scroll to the section titled, "Bench Testing the 3.58-MHz Crystals":

http://antiqueradio.org/RCACTC-4ColorTelevision.htm

Thanks to dtvmcdonald for that tip.

Phil Nelson
Phil's Old Radios
http://antiqueradio.org/index.html

SwizzyMan 05-31-2017 05:32 PM

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From what I am gathering, I think the crystal may be bad. I have it setup to be bench tested. I'm not seeing a real big change in amplitude when I get around 3.58. First picture is at 3.58 and second is way down around 1mhz. This is what I believe the change should look like https://antiqueradio.org/art/RCACTC-...lAnimation.gif

SwizzyMan 06-02-2017 10:14 AM

Any thoughts? I believe the crystal is bad, but I'd like some advice before I go out and buy one.

old_tv_nut 06-02-2017 11:51 AM

They're cheap - get one or a few
http://www.newark.com/raltron/a-3-57...49u/dp/96F2798

SwizzyMan 06-02-2017 09:08 PM

Cant go wrong at 58 cents. Ill pick one up soon and go from there. I now have a whole lot of time to work on the set now. I hope to get it wrapped up by august. :yes:

SwizzyMan 06-27-2017 09:53 PM

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New crystal is in and I can see a bit of improvement. Still cant get color to lock. But I can faintly see color through the rolling bars. Black and white picture is perfect I just cant get this pesky color to lock. I have tried putting caps across the crystal but I cant seem to get the frequency below 3.57900 (with a cap across the crystal). Reading through Phil's article on his 4 reveals that a 100pf cap can be put across L142 I believe. This TV wants to produce color, it is so close! Should I add a cap across L142?

old_tv_nut 06-27-2017 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SwizzyMan (Post 3186046)
... I have tried putting caps across the crystal but I cant seem to get the frequency below 3.57900 (with a cap across the crystal)...

Did you mistype the frequency? 3.57900 is too low - should be 3.579545.

Edit: oops - I see you meant 3.57966 - still high.

old_tv_nut 06-27-2017 11:03 PM

More C across L142 is easy and worth a try, I think.

SwizzyMan 06-27-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by old_tv_nut (Post 3186049)
Did you mistype the frequency? 3.57900 is too low - should be 3.579545.

Edit: oops - I see you meant 3.57966 - still high.

Yes right, my bad. I can get it down from 3.57966 to 3.57900 with a cap across the crystal.


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