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Old 10-01-2016, 04:59 PM
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I've looked at the idler gear assembly and it looks to be intact yet, I think it might be mainly a belt issue, but not sure until I can find out what the size of the belts are that this VCR needs because I looked over at SMC Electronics supply and their supply of belts go by the belt diameter and not necessarily by make and model of VCR.
Thats great the idler is OK.I would try a belt from another VCR if you have any non working VCRs there that you can salvage one off it.As long its a hair tighter then the bad belt .You dont want one too tight.It will put a load on the capstan motor and could burn it out.It should work until you find a new replacement.Atlease you will find out if the mechanism works ok with out chewing up your tapes.BTW ..Use a tape that you dont care if the VCR eats it.upI use 2 pencils and gently move the pencils out and see which one is smaller and use it.Just remember which belt is the original.If the original is smaller.Just keep looking until you find one a hair smaller then the original .Thats the quick way in finding one that works.Also you can measure the belt by stretching it out on the ruler like on the SMC site shows.

http://www.smcelectronics.com/vcrrep.htm
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:20 PM
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Thats great the idler is OK.I would try a belt from another VCR if you have any non working VCRs there that you can salvage one off it.As long its a hair tighter then the bad belt .You dont want one too tight.It will put a load on the capstan motor and could burn it out.It should work until you find a new replacement.Atlease you will find out if the mechanism works ok with out chewing up your tapes.BTW ..Use a tape that you dont care if the VCR eats it.upI use 2 pencils and gently move the pencils out and see which one is smaller and use it.Just remember which belt is the original.If the original is smaller.Just keep looking until you find one a hair smaller then the original .Thats the quick way in finding one that works.Also you can measure the belt by stretching it out on the ruler like on the SMC site shows.

http://www.smcelectronics.com/vcrrep.htm
yeah I still have two of the 3 original belts yet, I actually had several old VCR Belts laying around in my parts bin stash but only one of the belts was the correct size for what I needed (the biggest belt on this VCR) the other two belts were too small compared to what I had belt wise laying around, bad part is that I don't seem to have a ruler right now, so I can't measure anything right now, I have a couple of tape measures laying around but those won't work very well.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:39 PM
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yeah I still have two of the 3 original belts yet, I actually had several old VCR Belts laying around in my parts bin stash but only one of the belts was the correct size for what I needed (the biggest belt on this VCR) the other two belts were too small compared to what I had belt wise laying around, bad part is that I don't seem to have a ruler right now, so I can't measure anything right now, I have a couple of tape measures laying around but those won't work very well.
I would keep an eye open down at the Goodwill or at curbside for VCRs for belts.For $5 bucks .Its probably cheaper getting the belt that way then ordering one online after they hit you with the inflated shipping rates.I remember the old MCM electronics catalogs had a belt measuring gauge in them .You always can get a new belt if the Toshiba works great with the used test belt.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:45 PM
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I would keep an eye open down at the Goodwill or at curbside for VCRs for belts.For $5 bucks .Its probably cheaper getting the belt that way then ordering one online after they hit you with the inflated shipping rates.I remember the old MCM electronics catalogs had a belt measuring gauge in them .You always can get a new belt if the Toshiba works great with the used test belt.
The bad part is that I had for a while an early 1980s Hitachi top loading VCR that ended up having more wrong with it than I could repair so I salvaged all but one of the belts out of the machine and the one belt I forgot to get out of the machine would of worked for the rear loading mechanism assembly (the loading mechanism for loading the tape into the heads.)
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:58 PM
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The bad part is that I had for a while an early 1980s Hitachi top loading VCR that ended up having more wrong with it than I could repair so I salvaged all but one of the belts out of the machine and the one belt I forgot to get out of the machine would of worked for the rear loading mechanism assembly (the loading mechanism for loading the tape into the heads.)
Yes.I understand that happening after getting rid of stuff.Two months down the road you need something off it.It happens all the time here.All of us are in the same boat on storage issues with little or no room to store everything.I'm out of room here and still taking in CRT TVs here like a 25 inch Panasonic and a Sanyo 19 inch set that I took in in the past week.I probably have enough 25 inch sets here to stack them up to make the Jeopardy game show set in my living room.All I need is Alex and his contestants .
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Yes.I understand that happening after getting rid of stuff.Two months down the road you need something off it.It happens all the time here.All of us are in the same boat on storage issues with little or no room to store everything.I'm out of room here and still taking in CRT TVs here like a 25 inch Panasonic and a Sanyo 19 inch set that I took in in the past week.I probably have enough 25 inch sets here to stack them up to make the Jeopardy game show set in my living room.All I need is Alex and his contestants .
Yeah, I know that feeling, I had recently acquired an old Philco Townhouse TV from a local antique shop for $15 and I was wanting to restore it back to usable condition again but it turns out it might of been a little more than I could handle because the 'dag was coming off the back of the picture tube and the vertical oscillator is running at 30 hz instead of 60 hz causing the picture to be doubled ontop of itself and that's because there are some bad capacitors or something in the Vertical stage of the TV and it seems that it might be a little tricky to try and get to those caps to replace them besides them being rated at 1kV. Anyways I had acquired from Goodwill earlier this year a 1960s vintage Sony B & W Portable TV from the salvage and also a 1980s vintage Montgomery Wards 5" Portable Color TV that still works like new and all I had to do to it was readjust the picture adjustments in the back because the picture was kind of dark.
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Old 10-02-2016, 06:52 PM
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Yeah, I know that feeling, I had recently acquired an old Philco Townhouse TV from a local antique shop for $15 and I was wanting to restore it back to usable condition again but it turns out it might of been a little more than I could handle because the 'dag was coming off the back of the picture tube and the vertical oscillator is running at 30 hz instead of 60 hz causing the picture to be doubled ontop of itself and that's because there are some bad capacitors or something in the Vertical stage of the TV and it seems that it might be a little tricky to try and get to those caps to replace them besides them being rated at 1kV. Anyways I had acquired from Goodwill earlier this year a 1960s vintage Sony B & W Portable TV from the salvage and also a 1980s vintage Montgomery Wards 5" Portable Color TV that still works like new and all I had to do to it was readjust the picture adjustments in the back because the picture was kind of dark.
You could have that philco running with under $30 in parts, and a little effort.
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