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radio nut 02-16-2025 09:29 AM

Crystal radio question
 
Hello, i built one of those cheap 80's crystal radio kits. It picks up my 2 local stations decently. I am only using 15 feet of wire. If i add more wire the volume goes down. Why is that? I thought the more antennae the better.

old_tv_nut 02-16-2025 10:09 AM

Don't know, maybe it's the stray capacitance of the wire?

How is the wire arranged physically?
Do you have a good ground for the set?

radio nut 02-16-2025 10:23 AM

The ant. wire just goes up and to the left around tools on the peg board and then down towards the floor. For a crystal set does it matter which way the diode points? The instructions aren't clear on that.

radio nut 02-16-2025 10:24 AM

Ground...gies to the breaker box...
Then that goes to ground.

old_tv_nut 02-16-2025 05:47 PM

Ground sounds OK.

Not sure what to suggest about the antenna except maybe running it as straight as possible without bending back. When I had a crystal set as a kid in Chicago I threw the antenna wire out the upstairs window and into a tree. It was mostly horizontal and maybe 20 feet long and got a few Chicago stations.

Diode direction should be immaterial, just changes the phase of the audio by 180 degrees.

old_tv_nut 02-16-2025 05:50 PM

Just had a thought - how long is the ground wire? Does the ground wire run in the opposite direction from the antenna or more or less the same direction?

radio nut 02-17-2025 09:42 AM

Ground wire 18 inches, and same direction as ant wire

old_tv_nut 02-17-2025 11:37 AM

I don't think one that short could be a problem - out of ideas for now.

Dude111 02-17-2025 12:25 PM

Hmm maybe adding longer antenna changes how it recieves??

Is the volume lowering OR is the station not being picked up as strong? (That would make voluime seem to go down also)

old_tv_nut 02-17-2025 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 3262314)
Hmm maybe adding longer antenna changes how it recieves??

Is the volume lowering OR is the station not being picked up as strong? (That would make voluime seem to go down also)

Did you read the first post? He said using a longer antenna changes reception.

In a crystal set, the volume is entirely dependent on the received signal strength. It's not either/or.

old_tv_nut 02-17-2025 03:08 PM

More questions:
When you lengthen the antenna, do you have to retune the station?
What is the tuning mechanism? Variable coil length or variable capacitor?
Can you post a schematic?

radio nut 02-17-2025 03:55 PM

If i lengthen the ant the volume gets weaker and does seem to move on the coil. This is tuned by changing coil length. Could a very cold environment affect the earphone? It is 20 here and this is in my garage.

radio nut 02-17-2025 03:59 PM

I cant get the diagram pic to load correctly

radio nut 02-17-2025 04:04 PM

My camera's pictures are too big file size....wise to load here.

old_tv_nut 02-17-2025 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radio nut (Post 3262322)
If i lengthen the ant the volume gets weaker and does seem to move on the coil. This is tuned by changing coil length. Could a very cold environment affect the earphone? It is 20 here and this is in my garage.

Doubt the temp has much to do with the efficiency unless it affects the diode somehow? Even if it did, it would not account for the difference with antenna length.

You can email me the schematic and I'll post it.

wayne bretl "at" cox "dot" net (no space in name)


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