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timmy 03-27-2025 02:01 PM

Motorola vt71
 
Does anyone know when what the indicators are when a 7jp4 crt is getting tired or the phosphor’s are beginning to degrade. I have a bright tube but it’s like having no contrast all white until turning the brightness down some and it’s good I have a new 7jp4 I tried and it don’t do this. so this tube is really bright but don’t know if the emissions are low or phosphors are tired.

old_tv_nut 03-27-2025 02:53 PM

While phosphors do degrade slowly over time (burn in), it is minor compared to the cathode degrading, which is what you could be referring to.

timmy 03-27-2025 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by old_tv_nut (Post 3262878)
While phosphors do degrade slowly over time (burn in), it is minor compared to the cathode degrading, which is what you could be referring to.

So if the cathode, emissions are low or degrading shouldn’t the screen be somewhat darker not super bright ?

Yamamaya42 03-27-2025 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by timmy (Post 3262879)
So if the cathode, emissions are low or degrading shouldn’t the screen be somewhat darker not super bright ?

depends...

If you lose "cutoff" you lose the ability to have good contrast levels, things start to look washed out, you get the infamous silver faced look when you turn up the brightness.

timmy 03-27-2025 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3262880)
depends...

If you lose "cutoff" you lose the ability to have good contrast levels, things start to look washed out, you get the infamous silver faced look when you turn up the brightness.

Well I have another 7jp4 that is new and the contrast is good on that one.

Alex KL-1 03-28-2025 06:17 AM

Slight gassy/soft tube?

timmy 03-28-2025 08:09 AM

Yet another issue the retrace mod was done on this set but I have retrace lines on the bottom of the screen I always seen them on the top and the 220k resistor is good.

Yamamaya42 03-28-2025 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by timmy (Post 3262888)
Yet another issue the retrace mod was done on this set but I have retrace lines on the bottom of the screen I always seen them on the top and the 220k resistor is good.

On the old tube, or both new and old?
If it's just the older one and not the new, then that is another sign of a tired tube, the elements can no longer react fast enough to the blanking signals any more.

timmy 03-28-2025 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Yamamaya42 (Post 3262889)
On the old tube, or both new and old?
If it's just the older one and not the new, then that is another sign of a tired tube, the elements can no longer react fast enough to the blanking signals any more.

Both tubes the lines are not bad they are faint but can be seen on different scenes

Chris K 03-28-2025 10:13 AM

I got very very lucky on my VT-71 acquisition and restoration. It has one of the brightest 7JP4s I've ever seen. I have about 5 others that range in quality from "can't see a thing" to "watchable but not great".

Yamamaya42 03-28-2025 10:31 AM

I'm not familiar with the VT-71 or the mod you tried, but most likely there is more than one way to do it, and how well it works most likely depends on the health of the tube, and prob will never get rid of all lines completely, but reduce them to a level where it's much more watchable than it was before added.


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