[kramden66]

yeah i tried 16.9 , 4.3 pan and scan and the other 4.3 setting on the dvd recorder and no change , no change if i go 1080i or 1080p either , so i figure if it does this on two different tv sets especialy one that is an hdtv tube thats 4.3 only no wide screen there then it must be the dvd , i suppose its time to upgrade to a bluray anyway , my brothers will do 4.3 in 1080i or 1080p with out artificial stretching and black bars on the sides, the only other way would be to mess with the horizontal size and vertical size in the tv and thats not as easy to do as with a 1940's-1970's tv.

mike