Can you believe this?

[Steve McVoy]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1940...item19f27070d0

Alll it takes is two fools.

[hi_volt]

Obviously the guy with the feedback rating of 17 is a shill. The seller often has some interesting items, but I always cringe when I click on the listing and see who it is. Oh well....remember what the Humongous said in the movie The Road Warrior. "....Walk away....just walk away......."

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by hi_volt

Obviously the guy with the feedback rating of 17 is a shill.

That means he has financial interest right?? (SHILL)

I see it sold!

[DaveWM]

Originally Posted by hi_volt

Obviously the guy with the feedback rating of 17 is a shill. The seller often has some interesting items, but I always cringe when I click on the listing and see who it is. Oh well....remember what the Humongous said in the movie The Road Warrior. "....Walk away....just walk away......."

the humongous "just walk away" that made me laugh out loud. Yes I remember it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ttKJwvFIgw

[M3-SRT8]

Originally Posted by hi_volt

Oh well....remember what the Humongous said in the movie The Road Warrior. "....Walk away....just walk away......."

"... And there'll be an end to the horror...!"

[earlyfilm]

Originally Posted by Steve McVoy

Alll it takes is two fools.

Yep!

Or one person misreading the listing.
Or one buyer with zero feedback.
Or one shill.

See VK thread:

http://www.videokarma.org/showthread.php?t=262487

Not unexpected as the same set was previously "sold" on July 20 this year by a seller in New Jersey for $885 to another buyer (and seller?).

Radio10467 is just across the river in the Bronx. The first seller said it made sound but the picture tube did not light up. That auction went to above $6000 before the two higher bids were retracted.

The big misleading "PRE-WAR" in the header did not hurt.

James

[Steve D.]

The header says "prewar" and the description says prewar design. totally misleading. If this set sold for anywhere near that price it must have been to a collector in Europe or Japan. There's an unnamed vintage TV collector that swears the 621TS was actually marketed prewar as an RCA Model TT-7 as well as a 10" RCA model TT-10. Convincing him otherwise has proven futile.

-Steve D.

[kvflyer]

"A Phool and his money is soon parted..."

Just sayn' ...

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by Steve D.

The header says "prewar" and the description says prewar design. totally misleading. If this set sold for anywhere near that price it must have been to a collector in Europe or Japan. There's an unnamed vintage TV collector that swears the 621TS was actually marketed prewar as an RCA Model TT-7 as well as a 10" RCA model TT-10. Convincing him otherwise has proven futile.

-Steve D.

I've never understood this Steve and have had several conversations myself with people about this. You tell them that the chassis used many miniature tubes that weren't available until during or after the war and they shrug it off. You then get the line "well the cabinets were made pre-war and then stored in a warehouse until after the war". So how did they design a cabinet before the war that was to small to fit any chassis design of the time that used all octal tubes? Do people really think this is how engineering works, the cabinet is designed and then a chassis is made to fit? I guess Vassos had a crystal ball so he was able to designed the cabinet ahead of time :/ Like you say, convincing them of this is futile. Let them believe what they want.

Darryl

[ggregg]

It's not a question of believing. They are trying to find some legitimacy to their spin to justify a higher price. Happens with a lot of things in today's world.

[tvdude1]

Dam I would sell him all of my collection with colors sets and 2 transvisions and both my 621 sets for that.

[Electronic M]

Originally Posted by tubesrule

I've never understood this Steve and have had several conversations myself with people about this. You tell them that the chassis used many miniature tubes that weren't available until during or after the war and they shrug it off. You then get the line "well the cabinets were made pre-war and then stored in a warehouse until after the war". So how did they design a cabinet before the war that was to small to fit any chassis design of the time that used all octal tubes? Do people really think this is how engineering works, the cabinet is designed and then a chassis is made to fit? I guess Vassos had a crystal ball so he was able to designed the cabinet ahead of time :/ Like you say, convincing them of this is futile. Let them believe what they want.

Darryl

Not claiming to be in the prewar camp, but a few 'devil's advocate' arguments come to mind. While there is no way Vassos would know the chassis size and layout years in advance and no way the cabinets were made pre-war, there is still a possibility that the design could have been drawn up pre-war. A drawing with no actual dimensions, but rather proportion ratios for the cabinet could have been drawn up, and after the war when the chassis was designed the control layout, CRT and speaker placement could have been made to fit a cabinet of the proportional design scaled to fit the chassis...

I'd wager more than a few chassis were only at best half designed before the cabinet team gave them some specks to build to.

[Joe Connor]

Here's the real kick in the butt: some doofus on craigslist or ebay or at an estate sale will have a 621TS for sale, will do his/her "research" and stumble upon this completed sale, and will set a $7.600 price on the set. No power on heaven or earth will be able to persuade the doofus seller that the set is worth only a fraction of that price.

[tubesrule]

Originally Posted by Electronic M

Not claiming to be in the prewar camp, but a few 'devil's advocate' arguments come to mind. While there is no way Vassos would know the chassis size and layout years in advance and no way the cabinets were made pre-war, there is still a possibility that the design could have been drawn up pre-war. A drawing with no actual dimensions, but rather proportion ratios for the cabinet could have been drawn up, and after the war when the chassis was designed the control layout, CRT and speaker placement could have been made to fit a cabinet of the proportional design scaled to fit the chassis...

I agree that the basic cabinet design could have been done anytime, and may have indeed been designed before the war. It's when people take a leap and then concoct these stories about the cabinets being made before the war and warehoused or the entire set being a pre-war design where it comes off the tracks.

Darryl

[Sandy G]

This is just SO much nonsense, IMHO. Shill bidders, fake bids, all of it. And eventually, legitimate collectors like us end up being the losers, I think.