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Old 08-04-2007, 07:06 AM
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Single Gun Color CRT

Here is probably one of the rarest color CRT's you'll see. It's a prototype RCA single gun color CRT, notice the date - 1951.

BTW: It is filled with air.

For more information on the CRT, (and see the surprise surrounding the tube) go to the ETF web site:
http://www.earlytelevision.org/rca_d...al_onegun.html

The tube will be donated to the ETF museum, and be on display for the 2008 convention.



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Old 08-04-2007, 08:33 AM
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Is it yours ? I'm assuming its gone to air & is no good, but wouldn't it be something if it HADN'T ? Wow....
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:25 AM
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single gun that early? wow. So is that the "apple" design?

That would be something that the ETF would own or want to own methinks.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:02 PM
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prototype RCA
That simultaneously trumps any talk of association of the tube with CBS or Philco color development. Way too early for the latter anyway.
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Old 08-04-2007, 04:22 PM
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Rca's unlimited resources

The general was hell-bent to get color off the ground backed by the tremendous engineering staff at RCA. I still think the whole color war issue would make a very interesting movie.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:59 PM
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:44 AM
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If I read the ETF posted discription of this tube correctly, it is a shadow mask tube. The project shelved because of convergence and brightness problems associated with the one gun design. Super find and a great addition to the ETF collection. Thanks Chuck A. for your efforts.

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Old 08-05-2007, 09:31 AM
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Whoa Nellie! As much as I would love to have credit for the tube, all credit goes to Chuck A...not me, Dave A. One of us has to change our name I guess. Seeing us side by side though will create no confusion.

But I do have a new thread to come later this week on a small project that has been completed and ready for viewing. I need time to assemble some photos...and maybe a comparison shot or two. And there will be credit to spread around with it.

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Thanks Dave for pointing out my error. I have corrected my reply. I should know better then to post replies late at night.

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Old 08-05-2007, 08:36 PM
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single gun that early? wow. So is that the "apple" design?

That would be something that the ETF would own or want to own methinks.
NOT the Apple design.

This was a shadow mask tube that had what I would describe as dynamic modulation of the purity settings, so a single beam was moved sequentially to the correct position for red, green, and blue. It was probably MORE touchy for adjustment than a 3-gun tube. For "dot-sequential" color (the RCA system), the beam angle of arrival would be centered on the three RGB phosphors for monochrome, and decentered in the direction and amount indicated by the phase and amplitude of the color difference. This sounds like a real mess, since getting the correct brightness and ratio of RGB simultaneously would depend on whether the phosphor dots continuously covered the screen. If they had any non-emitting space between them, the brightness would drop as soon as you moved the beam arrival angle off-center.
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:50 AM
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Hello to all,

To answer VintageCollect's comment about perfect convergence on single-gun color tubes, here is a picture of the familiar convergence pattern on the screen of a Sony Indextron.

This is a 625 line pattern fed through a digital standards converter to produce 525/60 then broadcast by an NTSC transmitter.

Also, color bars on the same beast.

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Old 08-06-2007, 05:56 PM
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With the Indextron, (or the early "Apple" tube) you should get no convergence error, because there is only one beam emanating from a constant position. The RCA tube, however, moves the apparent point of emission, so its beam is going through a different part of the deflection yoke aperture depending on the color selected. In this case, all bets are off. You have essentially turned one beam into three sequentially. You need specifically to design so the beam hits the same spot on the screen no matter what the color-selection field is doing.

By the way, even a field-sequential set can show "convergence" errors if the high voltage and sweep are not perfectly stable from field to field. We could see this on the "personal viewer" color wheel at ETF when the contrast was turned up too high on the DuMont set, causing alternate fields to have different scan widths.
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Hi Vintage Collect!

More Indextron pictures for your enjoyment.

1) Indextron TV general view
2) Closeup of scanned screen. Note sinusoidal wobble of beam along phosphor stripes.
3) Cute girl on French TV. DVB-T terrestrial transcoded to NTSC & rebroadcast
4) French weather forecast, 8 PM news.
5) FOX news received via Astra 2 (SKY Digital-UK) PAL transcoded to NTSC, etc.

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