Videokarma.org

Go Back   Videokarma.org TV - Video - Vintage Television & Radio Forums > Early Color Television

Notices

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-11-2007, 12:59 PM
Chad Hauris's Avatar
Chad Hauris Chad Hauris is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: West Texas
Posts: 2,085
Will CRT rebuilders disappear in near future?

Can anyone speculate on the availablility of CRT rebuilding services in the future? It seems like it is getting to the point where new CRT-based devices are not being used in commercial applications and probably old TV enthusiasts will constitute the great majority of CRT-rebuild needs (and this amount may not be enough to sustain a commercial business rebuilding CRT's)

Just wonder if I should try and get round CRT's rebuilt now rather than wait to do it in case the service becomes unavailable.
__________________
Chad Hauris
http://www.youtube.com/user/retrochad
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-11-2007, 01:17 PM
freakaftr8's Avatar
freakaftr8 freakaftr8 is offline
Convergence freak!
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Folsom, CA (no not in the prison)
Posts: 1,778
Well I feel the same way about this. If CRT companies do go under, we should pool together, buy thier equipment and repair our own CRT's! Hech, I have a huge building out here I would gladly have the equipment sit at and operate!
__________________
Honey, turn on the tv.. I'm cold!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-11-2007, 03:04 PM
kbmuri's Avatar
kbmuri kbmuri is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 590
Even if you have the equipment, don't you still need to depend on somebody manufacturing replacement guns? If nobody does that, aren't you still SOL?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-11-2007, 03:04 PM
radiotvnut's Avatar
radiotvnut radiotvnut is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Meridian, MS
Posts: 6,025
I too am afraid that the CRT rebuilders will go under due to lack of business. Due to the cheapness of recent consumer CRT sets; no one is going to have the CRT changed in one. That fact along with everything going to LCD, Plasma, etc. will probably hurt the CRT rebuilding market. Our local parts house recently discarded a bunch of new CRT's that have been sitting there for years. The owner told me that they had tried to sell them for below what they cost the supply house with no luck. They finally discarded them and wrote them off because they were taking up too much room. He said the only one's that bought CRT's were the hospitals for use in their TV's. Since those hospital TV's were different from consumer TV's, I guess it was cost effective to replace the CRT when it failed. After all, you can't buy those sets for $99.99 at wal-mart. BTW, there are some hospital TV's around here that are still used after 20+ years. I guess they keep them going as long as they can. I wonder if there's any of those old '70's Sylvania GT Matic hospital sets still in use anywhere. Those were the ones with the motorized tuner and the UHF position turned the set off.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-11-2007, 04:48 PM
old_tv_nut's Avatar
old_tv_nut old_tv_nut is offline
See yourself on Color TV!
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rancho Sahuarita
Posts: 7,745
Besides meeting electrical safety and medical device non-interference requirements, I'd bet that many hospital sets were purchased as part of a package including the intercom etc. So, when the room is upgraded to a complete new system, the TV gets replaced - and in the future, that will be flat panel.
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #6  
Old 11-11-2007, 05:04 PM
oldtvman's Avatar
oldtvman oldtvman is offline
Larry Melton (oldtvman)
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
Posts: 786
Law of supply and demand

Unless these guys are doing this part-time, I don't think rebuilding crt's would be a full time venture. It may take one of us the find the equipment necessary to rebuild these jewels of the past.
__________________
[IMG]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-11-2007, 10:33 PM
fsjonsey's Avatar
fsjonsey fsjonsey is offline
Living The Draper Ethos
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 539
I wonder if the military has CRT's rebuilt?
__________________
This device isn't a spaceship, it's a time machine. It goes backwards, and forwards... it takes us to a place where we ache to go again.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-12-2007, 01:47 PM
kx250rider's Avatar
kx250rider kx250rider is offline
REAL TVs have TUBES!
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles & Dallas
Posts: 3,239
Viva MEXICO!

I have the feeling that for many years after they stop doing it here, it will continue south of the border. Many of the rebuilders in Los Angeles (Dunbar, Pacificc Vacuum Sales, West Coast, and others,) sold their equipment to Mexican CRT companies when they went out of business.

Charles
__________________
Collecting & restoring TVs in Los Angeles since age 10
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-12-2007, 06:03 PM
dr.ido's Avatar
dr.ido dr.ido is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 550
Perhaps they are also doing it China. A recent thread of mine about a cheap Chinese set I found with a used VGA CRT in it turned up various listings for Chinese wholesalers offering "B" grade CRTs. Since then I have seen one more cheap Chinese set that had a CRT that looked older than the rest of the set (the corners were more rounded than recent CRTs). Though I doubt they will be doing anything with delta gun/round CRTs.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-13-2007, 10:56 AM
bgadow's Avatar
bgadow bgadow is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Federalsburg, MD
Posts: 5,865
There is a popular bumper rechroming company called Bumper Boyz. They seem to be out of California but I strongly suspect the work is done south of the border. I can't imagine CA, with its strict enviromental laws, being a good place to set up shop, and these guys have low prices. I called them once and the woman who answered spoke hardly any English. I could see a similiar arrangement for crt rebuilding, assuming the quality control was up to snuff.
__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
  #11  
Old 11-13-2007, 12:24 PM
andy andy is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,004
---

Last edited by andy; 12-07-2021 at 02:04 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-23-2007, 02:42 AM
Tom_Ryan's Avatar
Tom_Ryan Tom_Ryan is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 189
I don't forsee any long term future for rebuilding conventional CRT displays. It's doubtful that many countries would have any sustained interest because of the rapid advances in LCD and Plasma display technology. Places like Asia, China, even Mexico, are currently where flat screens devices are being manufactured - so why would they bother with CRT repair, in the long run? It would seem to be uneconomical for small or large business. Perhaps the best hope would be for a niche player - someone with the expertise, equipment, and facilities integrated into some other venue to absorb the costs - essentially doing it as a contribution to television history.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-23-2007, 02:47 AM
Estring's Avatar
Estring Estring is offline
Shepherd
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 9
I have a Toshiba CRT HD tv. Am I pretty much screwed as well?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-23-2007, 10:55 AM
bgadow's Avatar
bgadow bgadow is offline
VideoKarma Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Federalsburg, MD
Posts: 5,865
I get the impression that the couple companies left doing it (well, I only know of a couple) are being kept in business by industrial/commerical uses. Stuff like specialized monitors, arcade games, etc. Some of that will continue for a short while because some equipment would be too impractical to switch over to LCD or whatever. But we will live to see the day when nobody is doing it as a full-time business. As far as I've seen only Hawkeye is left doing color roundies-correct? It would be great if, should he look at leaving the business, advance notice could be given. That way some stashed-away duds could get rebuilt before he does. I have a couple up in the attic & I really don't want to spend the money on them right yet.
__________________
Bryan
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-23-2007, 12:06 PM
kx250rider's Avatar
kx250rider kx250rider is offline
REAL TVs have TUBES!
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles & Dallas
Posts: 3,239
There are still A LOT of CRT applications in military, air traffic control, and other fields. In fact, another AK'er said that the updated version of the 21FJP22 is still in the current Navy parts catalog. I remember being told within the past 15 years that 10BP4s are still in use in some applications too.

HOWEVER, as Tom and Bryan said, somebody with an interest in TV history better get on the stick and buy some equipment, get as many guns as can be found, and learn the procedure.

Charles
__________________
Collecting & restoring TVs in Los Angeles since age 10
Reply With Quote
Audiokarma
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©Copyright 2012 VideoKarma.org, All rights reserved.